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jackamo · 13-03-2005, 10:57 PM

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the doc i no said it would be fine to do this aslong as i go see my doctor first. and i should get some really gd gains

opex · 13-03-2005, 11:02 PM

Hi mate,

winstrol is a very weak steroid and ran alone will yield little gains maybe a few lean pounds over your course.

IMO if you have made the decision to take steroids i would opt for a better course with proper safety ancillaries such as milk thistle ala and cranberry juice and run something proper like -

test 500mg week 1-8
dbol 30mg wk1-6

nolva on hand for gyno and nolva/clomid for proper pct recovery.

jackamo · 13-03-2005, 11:22 PM

ok opex just ota interst do u get tests dont while on rohids coz u can get it checked private for like 80 quid i think. also wot age did u start takeing rhoids i was thinking of starting nxt year when im 18 or prob when im 19. i am still doing all my reaserch

opex · 13-03-2005, 11:31 PM

Hi mate,

TBH i started gear far too young many moons ago at 19

I would not advise this as i did not gain to my full potential naturally - this is where alot of us went wrong.

You are only 17 bro and have yrs of natural growth left - only when u have exhausted your natural potential should you make the decision to try anabolics.

There is no special pill that makes you grow into a monster bro - you need to hammer your diet and training and get it spot on and get the rest in - if you continue to do this atm you will continue to gain naturally.

By all means you can read up and research for the knowledge but imho you are far too young even at 18-19 - best left until your 20's at least.

jackamo · 13-03-2005, 11:55 PM

ok cheers bron my diet and training is on the top form so is rest well apart from the last 2 weekends but hey. i might give clen ago after ive bulcked fully before i do my comp but that wont interfear wiv my growth ect as u will no

rourkchris · 14-03-2005, 02:19 AM

I also started at 19 but wish I hadn't. I'm 6'1" and may have stunted my growth a bit. Best to wait as long as possible to ensure full linear growth and to have a very strong strength base naturally. I know that nobody wants to hear this but it is given as a caution. Also you really need to be mature emotionally. I'm not implying that you're not. AAS are more than some can handle emotionally and I feel that aspect is talked about far to little. Keep doing research on the net and really get a feel for what is out there and how people are doing. Let others who rush in to quickly be the guineau pigs and you can sit back and learn from their mistakes and successes. Good luck to you in your quest to get bigger.

LM6000 · 14-03-2005, 09:18 AM

I would LOVE to be 17 again, all that natural test running through the body, I really do believe that I had more gains naturally at 17 than I have had on two M1T/4AD/5AA cycles at 31/32.

Like you I'm still researching AAS and may do a course next year - when I'll be getting on for mid thirties - dependant on reaching my genetic limit through correct training, diet, rest etc.

meathead1987 · 14-03-2005, 09:21 PM

Props to opex, great advice and p[uts consumers safety before personal profit. I dont know many sources that would tell someone not to buy their stuff

And Jackamo how many times have I told you over MSN that ORAL ONLY CYCLES SUCK!

Clen rocks though

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jackamo Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 430 Rep Power:	ok cheers bron my diet and training is on the top form so is rest well apart from the last 2 weekends but hey. i might give clen ago after ive bulcked fully before i do my comp but that wont interfear wiv my growth ect as u will no ______________________ FEEL THE PAIN OR GO HOME!!!!

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13-03-2005, 11:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
opex Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Darkside of the moon Posts: 106 Rep Power:	Hi mate, winstrol is a very weak steroid and ran alone will yield little gains maybe a few lean pounds over your course. IMO if you have made the decision to take steroids i would opt for a better course with proper safety ancillaries such as milk thistle ala and cranberry juice and run something proper like - test 500mg week 1-8 dbol 30mg wk1-6 nolva on hand for gyno and nolva/clomid for proper pct recovery.

13-03-2005, 11:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
opex Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Darkside of the moon Posts: 106 Rep Power:	Hi mate, TBH i started gear far too young many moons ago at 19 I would not advise this as i did not gain to my full potential naturally - this is where alot of us went wrong. You are only 17 bro and have yrs of natural growth left - only when u have exhausted your natural potential should you make the decision to try anabolics. There is no special pill that makes you grow into a monster bro - you need to hammer your diet and training and get it spot on and get the rest in - if you continue to do this atm you will continue to gain naturally. By all means you can read up and research for the knowledge but imho you are far too young even at 18-19 - best left until your 20's at least.

14-03-2005, 02:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
rourkchris Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Rep Power:	I also started at 19 but wish I hadn't. I'm 6'1" and may have stunted my growth a bit. Best to wait as long as possible to ensure full linear growth and to have a very strong strength base naturally. I know that nobody wants to hear this but it is given as a caution. Also you really need to be mature emotionally. I'm not implying that you're not. AAS are more than some can handle emotionally and I feel that aspect is talked about far to little. Keep doing research on the net and really get a feel for what is out there and how people are doing. Let others who rush in to quickly be the guineau pigs and you can sit back and learn from their mistakes and successes. Good luck to you in your quest to get bigger.

14-03-2005, 09:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
LM6000 Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 270 Rep Power:	I would LOVE to be 17 again, all that natural test running through the body, I really do believe that I had more gains naturally at 17 than I have had on two M1T/4AD/5AA cycles at 31/32. Like you I'm still researching AAS and may do a course next year - when I'll be getting on for mid thirties - dependant on reaching my genetic limit through correct training, diet, rest etc.

14-03-2005, 09:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	Props to opex, great advice and p[uts consumers safety before personal profit. I dont know many sources that would tell someone not to buy their stuff And Jackamo how many times have I told you over MSN that ORAL ONLY CYCLES SUCK! Clen rocks though