Any advice appreciated

nige · 06-03-2005, 12:26 AM

Please help!

Have virtually decided to try AAS. My goals are:

To make a quality muscle gain that I will keep post cycle. Not interested in making a massive gain, approx 7-10 pounds would be ideal. Just want to put on a bit of quality bulk as a foundation.

Want to be as safe as I possibly can be, avoiding or at least minimising any aromatisation or androgenic side effects.

So far I am considering:

Primobolan Depot at 200/300mg weekly for 8-10 wks

or

Oral Turinabol at 20/30mg daily for 6-8 wks

Do these choices sound suitable? how about the dosages? will also use anti-oestrogen for pct if necessary?

I'm 31 years old. Weigh 158lbs (very lean). Been training on/off for 10 yrs. I do a split routine training each bodypart every 6-7 days. I eat well with a good protein intake. I'm also into cardio but will cut this down to a bare minimum while on my cycle.

Would love to know if you think above plan is suitable for my goal. Any advice greatly appreciated.

Thanks, nige

rourkchris · 06-03-2005, 01:58 AM

Both are mild enough to use together. Primobolan is fairly weak. Maybe 10 weeks at 300mg and 6 weeks of Turinabol 30mg ED. Do alot of research first. Don't rush into it. Pct is important so study it intensely before making a go.

zx9rjas · 06-03-2005, 02:47 AM

Used correctly and sensibly most AAS are quite safe and aromatisation can be minimalised, although as rourkchris said both are v mild and can be stacked.

What were you considering to use for pct.

J

nige · 06-03-2005, 07:34 PM

Thanks guys for your advice

I did want to start off on something weak just incase of sides. Was hoping as it was my first course I would react well anyway. Do you think my choices are too weak? As much as I want to play it safe I obviously don't want to be dissapointed either!

Would you recommend a different choice for my first course? As mentioned i'm not after a mega gain just a reasonable one of good quality that will be easy to maintain.

For pct was thinking of nolvadex. Would you recommend an alternative or anything in addition?

Thanks guys

rourkchris · 06-03-2005, 10:38 PM

Give your course a go and see how you react. Go all out:lift big, eat big, get plenty of rest. The price of Primo is outrageous for it's relative weakness but is pretty mild from a side effects standpoint so the trade-off may be well worth it IMHO.

nige · 07-03-2005, 04:08 PM

Thanks again rourkchris for the reply. Still gonna do a bit more research first before I commit myself. When I do take the plunge will post my results.

06-03-2005, 12:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
nige Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power:	Any advice appreciated Please help! Have virtually decided to try AAS. My goals are: To make a quality muscle gain that I will keep post cycle. Not interested in making a massive gain, approx 7-10 pounds would be ideal. Just want to put on a bit of quality bulk as a foundation. Want to be as safe as I possibly can be, avoiding or at least minimising any aromatisation or androgenic side effects. So far I am considering: Primobolan Depot at 200/300mg weekly for 8-10 wks or Oral Turinabol at 20/30mg daily for 6-8 wks Do these choices sound suitable? how about the dosages? will also use anti-oestrogen for pct if necessary? I'm 31 years old. Weigh 158lbs (very lean). Been training on/off for 10 yrs. I do a split routine training each bodypart every 6-7 days. I eat well with a good protein intake. I'm also into cardio but will cut this down to a bare minimum while on my cycle. Would love to know if you think above plan is suitable for my goal. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks, nige

06-03-2005, 02:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	yeah Used correctly and sensibly most AAS are quite safe and aromatisation can be minimalised, although as rourkchris said both are v mild and can be stacked. What were you considering to use for pct. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

06-03-2005, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
nige Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power:	first cycle Thanks guys for your advice I did want to start off on something weak just incase of sides. Was hoping as it was my first course I would react well anyway. Do you think my choices are too weak? As much as I want to play it safe I obviously don't want to be dissapointed either! Would you recommend a different choice for my first course? As mentioned i'm not after a mega gain just a reasonable one of good quality that will be easy to maintain. For pct was thinking of nolvadex. Would you recommend an alternative or anything in addition? Thanks guys

07-03-2005, 04:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
nige Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power:	Thanks Thanks again rourkchris for the reply. Still gonna do a bit more research first before I commit myself. When I do take the plunge will post my results.

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06-03-2005, 01:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
rourkchris Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Rep Power:	Both are mild enough to use together. Primobolan is fairly weak. Maybe 10 weeks at 300mg and 6 weeks of Turinabol 30mg ED. Do alot of research first. Don't rush into it. Pct is important so study it intensely before making a go.

06-03-2005, 10:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
rourkchris Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Rep Power:	Give your course a go and see how you react. Go all out:lift big, eat big, get plenty of rest. The price of Primo is outrageous for it's relative weakness but is pretty mild from a side effects standpoint so the trade-off may be well worth it IMHO.