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Old 01-03-2005, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default whats the recomeded Nolvadex PCT cycle?

i'm going to do a sust500/deca200 per week for 5 weeks to get started and was wondering what PCT i should do?

after reading about clomid i think i'm going to stay well clear of that and was thinking nolva is for me.

also i have been reading up on Gyno and now have Gyno-phobia, so was wondering what to do if i feel the effects of this at any time?

i know this is only a short cycle but going to start easy then if all goes well i'll do a longer one next time round.

last but not least testie shrinkage, is this a problem? if so how do i sort it?
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Default Re: whats the recomeded Nolvadex PCT cycle?

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i'm going to do a sust500/deca200 per week for 5 weeks to get started and was wondering what PCT i should do?

after reading about clomid i think i'm going to stay well clear of that and was thinking nolva is for me.

also i have been reading up on Gyno and now have Gyno-phobia, so was wondering what to do if i feel the effects of this at any time?

i know this is only a short cycle but going to start easy then if all goes well i'll do a longer one next time round.

last but not least testie shrinkage, is this a problem? if so how do i sort it?
for a first cycle i'd stick with test man so you can see how you react to things first, save the deca for later on

and why run it for 5 weeks? i'd go with at least 8 weeks man, and why are you running sust.? unless your planning to shoot EOD i'd go with test en.

for pct you'll need nolva, 5 weeks @ 60/40/20/20/20 should be sufficient, you'll also want HCG on cycle, run it from week 3 onwards up until a week before you finish your cycle, i'd go with 500iu a week (in 2 250iu shots 3 days apart)

if gyno shows up get on nolva at 60-80mg a day and once it goes down you might want to run 20mg ed for the rest of the cycle just to be safe

short cycles are not always safer, it depends what you running and how much your running and ensuring you have the right products on hand to deal with any problems you encounter, also some recent articles i've read about nolva have got me thinking the fewer cycles you do the better - so if your gonna run a cycle do it properly
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Old 01-03-2005, 04:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i like sust cos i have used it in small cycles in the past i did a couple of 12321 cycles a couple of years ago but i've since been told to avoid stagering.

i'll prob just run a sust500 per week for 8 now.

whats HCG? and what's it for?
and whats EOD

as for the nolva cycle is that 60mg every day for the first week 40mg every day for the second ect? and if so should it be taken in one go or spread through the day?


thanks for the advice so far the godfather,

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Some good advice from the godfather


I agree you shoulkd run the test for at least 8weeks and i would advise you to up the deca to 400mg as u aint gonna see much from 200mg

Heres my opinion on pct for your cycle -

Hcg is not needed on so little a dose of test - you only require hcg when you go upwards of 1 g test a week otherwise nolvadex or clomid for pct will sufice.

This i how i run my nolva pct -

Day 1 - 100mg nolva
day 2-11 - 60mg nolva
day11-22 - 40mg nolva


Your pct will start 21 days later after you last shot of deca or sus
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HCG is Human chorionic gonadotropin.

http://www.rnceus.com/hormone/hcg.html

In bodybuilding it is used on heavy cycles where the testicles have been shut down quite heavily and hcg will aid the recovery and natural function of the testes.
I have used it before and found it very helpful and stopped muscle loss post cycle as my testes were producing testosterone faster.

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