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Old 29-01-2005, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i have a sensitive liver so was wondering if i could stack 200mg of deca weekly with,1 or 2 applications of dermabolics big 1-test im just trying to steer clear of orals!!
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Old 29-01-2005, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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that's not a good idea. First off, that's not enough deca per week to do anything but suppress your natural test levels. It's also not enough 1-test to do anything either. As a rule of thumb, you always need to have some kind of testosterone base for any cycle to make sure you don't feel lethargic and lose your sex drive. Running the cycle you're talking about above will do nothing but leave you with a limp ****.

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would running both of them at higher dosages suit,bottom line is would it be possible to run a dermabolic with an injectable?
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that's not a good idea. First off, that's not enough deca per week to do anything but suppress your natural test levels. It's also not enough 1-test to do anything either. As a rule of thumb, you always need to have some kind of testosterone base for any cycle to make sure you don't feel lethargic and lose your sex drive. Running the cycle you're talking about above will do nothing but leave you with a limp ****.
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would running both of them at higher dosages suit,
no, that is a very bad idea, deca and 1-test would cause some major shut-down! sides would be harsh... deca ****, lethargy, depression... really not a good choice

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bottom line is would it be possible to run a dermabolic with an injectable?
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as swole said... test should always be used as a base for all steroid cycles, so if you want to run deca you could run 500-600mg test, 200-400mg deca for 10 weeks... that would be a good mass/strength gaining cycle, alternatively if you wanted to go the PH/PS route, stack 1-Test with 4derm for 6-8 weeks

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help lads done 3 weeks so far of 500 sus and 400 decca and ive got limp **** ive got nolva and clomid should i start eatiing those or up the sus? how long does this bloody last for? im desperate lads please help?

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help lads done 3 weeks so far of 500 sus and 400 decca and ive got limp **** ive got nolva and clomid should i start eatiing those or up the sus? how long does this bloody last for? im desperate lads please help?
erm... swole will probably have a better idea on what to do than what i would

but, if i had to take i guess i'd say that you either want to increase the sust a bit or cut the deca, limp **** will be from the deca man, and due to the lack of test in your system, so either dropping this dose a bit or upping the sust should help fix things

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Bigboss: Running those two together is not a good idea no matter how ya put it down. You might make good gains, but you also might be so tired all the time that you won't wanna go to the gym period. Also if you have a girl... she might split thinking you're impotent or something.

Wallace: Your doses are fine. If you're 3 weeks in, the test should be kicking in about right now. Give it another week and everything should be ok. If it's not, there's a good chance that you have some good deca, but your sustanon might be fake. There's alot of fake sust rollin around. Hopefully in the next few days you'll be back to normal and you won't have to worry about it. If it gets no better, I'd say stop the whole cycle and do 4 weeks PCT w/ clomid or nolvadex. As for the duration, once you start PCT it could take up to 6 weeks to be back to normal... hopefully it won't take that long, but it could.

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Also if you have a girl... she might split thinking you're impotent or something.
haha extactly

i'm on 1-ad right now and all i can say is thank **** for 4DERM! i've just started with this new woman and the sex is off da hook!.. i seriously can't control myself (normally i'm mr smooth, mr cool, mr laid-back, by now i feel like a damm nyphomanic!) its so unlike me but i'm real horny 24.7, everytime she calls me i go rock hard, feel like i'm 13 again

i know enough guys who are running it straight with no 4derm, i think they are ****in crazy, i'm still getting some serious lethargy and i'm only on a weak 400mg 1-ad ed and plenty of 4derm to keep my test there, my brotha has told me that by the end of the 6 weeks the lethargy will be so bad i'll be looking forward to getting off the shit

lethargy from 1-test would be worse, lethargy from deca would be much worse!... lethargy from both deca and 1-test would be phenominally strong!! and kiss goodbye to your sex life! that why you need a test base for all cycles!

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thanks lads going to start pct i think i cant see the point in being big and not being able to satisfy my wife next time ill stay away from deca i think
ill let you know if i manage to keep her happy :

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