deca+1-test

mutley

Hi Godfather,

I'm curious as to why you have gone back to a PH cycle like 1-AD. I've only done 4 cycles in total, two 1-AD and two steroid cycles (I'm currently on the 2nd gear cycle).

I would say that the sides with 1-AD were worse, and the results at the end of the cycle in no way comparable to a modest (500mg per week) gear cycle. I can't remember the mg's of 1-AD I was taking, but I think it was a similar dose to yourself.

Based on my experience, I would not consider going back to PH's.

Just interested to hear why you have done it

meathead1987

Some people dont like injecting.

It is cheap and painless to run a test base/1test transdermal for 8weeks. Should give equal gains to a 10week roid cycle. Possibly use some M1T or superdrol to kickstart. Maybe even sub the 1test for tren.

I would do this next Godfather, if it is just due to not like pinning.

Anonymous

well i haven't run gear yet!

this is my first ever cycle (the PH cycle i'm on right now), i just wanted to start on something mild and relatively hassle free (didnt really want to pin right away), i learnt a lot about PH and naturally i just wanted to try them first before moving on to roids, plus i'm only 20, and if i run a big test/d-bol cycle now i wouldn't have much to look forward to in the future, well i would but i don't want to be on roids for too long, just a couple of cycle at uni then once i'm big enough for me that will be it, didn't want to rush things, and this way i get more time to futher my knowledge of AS before i run the cycle (the more you know the better)

i've heard similar things from a lot of juicers, they just laugh at PH users and the gains that PH give, my buddy lectured me several times on how i shouldn't do PH and i should go straight onto juice, starting to think i should have listened but oh well... after this i think i will go with juice... but i've got a big ass PH stash to sell of 1st

Anonymous

well like i'm not afraid to pin, just wanted to try the milder PH first before moving on to roids, but now i'm realising that its just gonna be a waste of time and money, so i think my next cycle will be 10weeks of test w/ dbol to kickstart

like i said i need to sell off my stash of PH/PS first though, i have 8 bottles of s1+ laying around, so if i struggle to sell them i'd want to use those up before hitting the gear, might run 8 weeks of S1+ w/ dbol, m1t or var to kickstart the cycle, not sure yet though its still early on and i'm gonna get my summer cut out the way after this PH cycle i think, so the earliest i'd juice would be over the summer

mutley

Oh OK, didn't realise that you hadn't used gear. Just an assumption based on your posts.

BTW, I don't think that anyone should be laughing at you for starting off on PH's. I think it's quite common. Depends on how you feel about things..

Plenty of time for the hard stuff if you are that young

jackamo

my opinion is if your gunna do ph's you might aswell just do rhoids they hve the same dangeours. but you can get a greater size off steroids and keep the gains then you can off ph's from wot i read. ( thats just my opinion) when im old enough il give um ago but not till im 21 or 22