First course in 5+yrs........

silverfox · 18-01-2005, 10:23 PM

Ok guys I've got 2 options first of all I used to be quite a heavy juicer back in the day got to 15+st in shit condition.I have a lot more knowledge now so wont be hitting and heavy gear ie sust oxys testoviron etc.Back to the 2 options I have Deca EQ Tren Winstrol as for orals ive got d bol and OT.Was thinking of only wanting to gain quality mass so my first thought was Tren 2ml every 3 day same with the Winstrol and start with 40mg OT and taper down to 0.If I can get a little more cash I would throw in GH at 4iu for 5 straight days with 2 off.There are a few different combinations in there so let me know your opinion guys.
silverfox

Anonymous · 19-01-2005, 03:56 PM

You'd be better off running them more often than every 3rd day imo. EOD max really.
You'll need some test in there too to some degree. I recently finished a test prop/tren/OT cycle - costly but great.

silverfox · 19-01-2005, 07:50 PM

Was thinking along the same lines bro can get some viromone just worried about the sore nipples as I used to juice heavily B4 back in the day.What were your gains like?
silverfox

Anonymous · 20-01-2005, 11:22 AM

I kept it at 50mgs/d with the prop so no sore nipples for me. 37.5mgs/d with the tren and around 40mgs/d with the OT. Gains were great. This was my first cycle in a gap of two years and I went from 19st to holding now at 21st (one week after PCT) Benched 170k with relative ease at the end. Cant get anywhere near that now tho

silverfox · 20-01-2005, 06:33 PM

Dave how long did you run the test, tren and OT tabs for.?Did you taper off of them?Did you get my PM mate.?
Sorry for all the ????? mate
silverfox.

meathead1987 · 20-01-2005, 08:28 PM

KISS

keep it sweet and simple:

1-13 500mg Test enan
1-12 400mg EQ or Deca
1-4 30-40mg Dbol
11-14 50mg Winny

rourkchris · 21-01-2005, 01:00 AM

Persoanally I'd run a little more EQ than 400mg EW. I'd go no less than 600mg and run it 12-15 weeks. I frontload with orals for 6 weeks with no taper and switch to an androgenic injectible like 2ccs tren EOD for the remainder. I always use test in every bulking cycle but won't get into the dosages I've used there. You might consider IGF-1LR3 instead of HGH-just as expensive though but perhaps more satisfying results.

meathead1987 · 21-01-2005, 08:30 AM

He's been off 5years. He wont need huge doses, 500 and 400 will work a treat.

Anonymous · 21-01-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by silverfox

Dave how long did you run the test, tren and OT tabs for.?Did you taper off of them?Did you get my PM mate.?
Sorry for all the ????? mate
silverfox.

No probs. No pm tho bro

I began on test and OT - like i said I played with 100mgs eod but found 50mgs ED better for me. I ran this for 16 weeks btw. The OT I used weeks 1-4 and weeks 10-16. Id also say that 500mgs test 'E' per week will be fine for you bud. Cant really comment on EQ as it gives me a headache, unless its the prop version. Jumping straight in on tren after your lay off could be unwise. It does have some unique side effects. Makes me depressed. I just love the stuff tho.

Anonymous · 21-01-2005, 11:59 AM

Oh yeah, no tapering bro. I still believe there's an argument for the beginner to taper; most disagree. Pointless any other time tho.

I used 20mgs/d of the OT for a week to try it out. After a week I upped it to 30mgs/d till the end of week 4. Then the latter usage was ran at 40mgs/d. Watch out for heartburn.

18-01-2005, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
silverfox Under Construction Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: U.K Escotia Posts: 19 Rep Power:	First course in 5+yrs........ Ok guys I've got 2 options first of all I used to be quite a heavy juicer back in the day got to 15+st in shit condition.I have a lot more knowledge now so wont be hitting and heavy gear ie sust oxys testoviron etc.Back to the 2 options I have Deca EQ Tren Winstrol as for orals ive got d bol and OT.Was thinking of only wanting to gain quality mass so my first thought was Tren 2ml every 3 day same with the Winstrol and start with 40mg OT and taper down to 0.If I can get a little more cash I would throw in GH at 4iu for 5 straight days with 2 off.There are a few different combinations in there so let me know your opinion guys. silverfox ______________________ You live by the Sword You die by the Sword.

19-01-2005, 07:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
silverfox Under Construction Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: U.K Escotia Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Was thinking along the same lines bro can get some viromone just worried about the sore nipples as I used to juice heavily B4 back in the day.What were your gains like? silverfox ______________________ You live by the Sword You die by the Sword.

20-01-2005, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
silverfox Under Construction Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: U.K Escotia Posts: 19 Rep Power:	Dave how long did you run the test, tren and OT tabs for.?Did you taper off of them?Did you get my PM mate.? Sorry for all the ????? mate silverfox. ______________________ You live by the Sword You die by the Sword.

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19-01-2005, 03:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	You'd be better off running them more often than every 3rd day imo. EOD max really. You'll need some test in there too to some degree. I recently finished a test prop/tren/OT cycle - costly but great.

20-01-2005, 11:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	I kept it at 50mgs/d with the prop so no sore nipples for me. 37.5mgs/d with the tren and around 40mgs/d with the OT. Gains were great. This was my first cycle in a gap of two years and I went from 19st to holding now at 21st (one week after PCT) Benched 170k with relative ease at the end. Cant get anywhere near that now tho

20-01-2005, 08:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	KISS keep it sweet and simple: 1-13 500mg Test enan 1-12 400mg EQ or Deca 1-4 30-40mg Dbol 11-14 50mg Winny

21-01-2005, 01:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
rourkchris Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Rep Power:	Persoanally I'd run a little more EQ than 400mg EW. I'd go no less than 600mg and run it 12-15 weeks. I frontload with orals for 6 weeks with no taper and switch to an androgenic injectible like 2ccs tren EOD for the remainder. I always use test in every bulking cycle but won't get into the dosages I've used there. You might consider IGF-1LR3 instead of HGH-just as expensive though but perhaps more satisfying results.

21-01-2005, 08:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	He's been off 5years. He wont need huge doses, 500 and 400 will work a treat.

21-01-2005, 11:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Oh yeah, no tapering bro. I still believe there's an argument for the beginner to taper; most disagree. Pointless any other time tho. I used 20mgs/d of the OT for a week to try it out. After a week I upped it to 30mgs/d till the end of week 4. Then the latter usage was ran at 40mgs/d. Watch out for heartburn.