best product to control on cycle estrogen levels?

Anonymous · 05-01-2005, 11:29 PM

letro, adex or nolva?

please give the reason for your choice, and what doseage you'd recommend on a light-moderate juice cycle (test/dbol)

meathead1987 · 07-01-2005, 10:25 AM

Low dose letro(0.25-0.5mg EOD) is good for preventing gyno, and decreasing bloat a lot.

Nolva would only be used to stop gyno IF signs arise @ 60mg 1st day, 40, then down to ~10mg ED/EOD for the remainder of the cycle.

Remember, you dont want all the estrogen from your system gone, just enough so that you dont look like a balloon.

vinger · 07-01-2005, 10:52 AM

i use tamoxofen. never seen it mentioned on here tho. any1 else use it or even heard of it? ive been told its the same as nolva. :?

tom84 · 07-01-2005, 11:07 AM

it is nolva

Anonymous · 07-01-2005, 11:22 AM

going by various posts i have read on this board i voted nolva.

i aint actually heard of the other 2

meathead1987 · 07-01-2005, 11:33 AM

Nolva is a SERM. It blocks the Estrogen(E) sensors from sensing E. Especially in breast tissue. Hence, if you get symptoms use Nolva(Tamoxifen citrate=nolva, but 30mg Tamox citrate=20mg Nolva tab).

Letro(Femara) or Arimidex(anastrozole(I think)) are both aromatose inhibitors. They stop E from forming via 3beta-HSL in the liver.(which converts test --> E)

IOW, Nolva does not decrease estrogen, only blocks the sensors.

Letro/Arimi stop E formation.

Be aware, Letro is superior to Arimi, and can be used longer.

A legal(OTC) route on cycle would be to run transdermal formestane, but this loses effectiveness after a few weeks.

tom84 · 07-01-2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Tamoxifen citrate=nolva, but 30mg Tamox citrate=20mg Nolva tab).

ah that i didnt know cheers man thought they were 1 an the same

meathead1987 · 07-01-2005, 11:40 AM

If the pack says 20mg tamoxifen per tab, it has 20mg nolva per tab.

However, if it says 20mg tamixifen citrate per tab, this is only 13.333mg nolva.

vinger · 07-01-2005, 11:43 AM

cheers tom.
I vote nolva then as its the only one ive used and ive never heard of the other 2 either. I have had the old sore/itchy nipple sindrome recently and the nolva sorted it out pretty quick.

meathead1987 · 07-01-2005, 12:03 PM

I dont mean to sound an ass, buit why use Nolva if Letro/Arimi are better? Nolva is only better if gyno symptoms start to rear their heads.

letro is the cheapest option by far.

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07-01-2005, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	Low dose letro(0.25-0.5mg EOD) is good for preventing gyno, and decreasing bloat a lot. Nolva would only be used to stop gyno IF signs arise @ 60mg 1st day, 40, then down to ~10mg ED/EOD for the remainder of the cycle. Remember, you dont want all the estrogen from your system gone, just enough so that you dont look like a balloon.

07-01-2005, 10:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	i use tamoxofen. never seen it mentioned on here tho. any1 else use it or even heard of it? ive been told its the same as nolva. :?

07-01-2005, 11:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	going by various posts i have read on this board i voted nolva. i aint actually heard of the other 2

07-01-2005, 11:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	Nolva is a SERM. It blocks the Estrogen(E) sensors from sensing E. Especially in breast tissue. Hence, if you get symptoms use Nolva(Tamoxifen citrate=nolva, but 30mg Tamox citrate=20mg Nolva tab). Letro(Femara) or Arimidex(anastrozole(I think)) are both aromatose inhibitors. They stop E from forming via 3beta-HSL in the liver.(which converts test --> E) IOW, Nolva does not decrease estrogen, only blocks the sensors. Letro/Arimi stop E formation. Be aware, Letro is superior to Arimi, and can be used longer. A legal(OTC) route on cycle would be to run transdermal formestane, but this loses effectiveness after a few weeks.

07-01-2005, 11:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	If the pack says 20mg tamoxifen per tab, it has 20mg nolva per tab. However, if it says 20mg tamixifen citrate per tab, this is only 13.333mg nolva.

07-01-2005, 11:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	cheers tom. I vote nolva then as its the only one ive used and ive never heard of the other 2 either. I have had the old sore/itchy nipple sindrome recently and the nolva sorted it out pretty quick.

07-01-2005, 12:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	I dont mean to sound an ass, buit why use Nolva if Letro/Arimi are better? Nolva is only better if gyno symptoms start to rear their heads. letro is the cheapest option by far.