d'bol

sugaj · 30-12-2004, 02:53 PM

can u get a kidney problem from just a one off 8 week course of dianabol??

nebodybuilder · 30-12-2004, 03:36 PM

depends how much you do. be sensible and you should be ok.

Cosmogul · 30-12-2004, 11:05 PM

Also make sure to leave enough time off (atleast the same amount of time you were on) for you to recoup. If you have a history of kidney problems in your family i dunno... id probably recommend forgetting orals or restricting much more. Bloodwork is always a good thing, and watching out for discolorations in the urine (though sometimes it means you just arent getting enough water).

meathead1987 · 31-12-2004, 12:43 PM

8 weeks is A LOT of Dbol.

sugaj · 31-12-2004, 01:39 PM

meathead, i think u'll find that 8 weeks is the norm for a course. A lot of people do it for 12 weeks.

Also, would injections be safer for the kidney then??

whats better, d'bol or sustannon.

meathead1987 · 31-12-2004, 03:31 PM

8 weeks is a lot for a methylated steroid. BTW, Dbol only is a bad choise for a cycle. Most of the gains are water.

The best cycle for a 1st timer(are you a 1st timer) would be:

weeks 1-10 500mg Test enenthate
weeks 1-4 30-40mg Dbol

Sust is better than Dbol FYI.

Anonymous · 31-12-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meathead1987

8 weeks is A LOT of Dbol.

my thoughts exactly

oral only cycles are not worth it, either juice right or don't juice at all, if your serious about things your much better running a cycle of test and dbol like meathead says

www.steroid.com

go do some research man!

peace

meathead1987 · 31-12-2004, 03:58 PM

If you already have the Dbol, but dont want to pin. My advice would be to get a 1T/4AD transdermal and run a cycle like this:

1-8 2-300mg 1T
1-8 3-400mg 4AD
1-4 30-40mg Dbol.

Anonymous · 31-12-2004, 04:45 PM

If you are really unsure of needles as well as the above id like to add that testosterone undecanoate capsules (Restandol, Andriol, Nuvir) are a good alternative but you'll need at least 8 per day (I know a BB'er who uses 40 per day)
so it gets kinda expensive.

Also, a test prop in thin oil (Ethyl Oleate) such as Virormone can be administered subceutaneously into stomach fat with an insulin pin. Ive even done I.M. with it before but it needs to be slowly done.

Once the barriers are down using the insulin pin, try an orange, before you know it you'll be wanting a green just for the pain :twisted:

meathead1987 · 31-12-2004, 05:07 PM

You could also convert cattle pellets to active bases:

I think you can get tren and Test bases.

These could easily be made into a transdermal.

200mg Test base and Tren base a day would make for an excellent 8 week cycle.

Again, you could kickstart with Dbol

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30-12-2004, 03:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
nebodybuilder Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: north east Posts: 58 Rep Power:	depends how much you do. be sensible and you should be ok.

30-12-2004, 11:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cosmogul Under Construction Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7 Rep Power:	Also make sure to leave enough time off (atleast the same amount of time you were on) for you to recoup. If you have a history of kidney problems in your family i dunno... id probably recommend forgetting orals or restricting much more. Bloodwork is always a good thing, and watching out for discolorations in the urine (though sometimes it means you just arent getting enough water).

31-12-2004, 12:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	8 weeks is A LOT of Dbol.

31-12-2004, 01:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
sugaj Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61 Rep Power:	meathead, i think u'll find that 8 weeks is the norm for a course. A lot of people do it for 12 weeks. Also, would injections be safer for the kidney then?? whats better, d'bol or sustannon.

31-12-2004, 03:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	8 weeks is a lot for a methylated steroid. BTW, Dbol only is a bad choise for a cycle. Most of the gains are water. The best cycle for a 1st timer(are you a 1st timer) would be: weeks 1-10 500mg Test enenthate weeks 1-4 30-40mg Dbol Sust is better than Dbol FYI.

31-12-2004, 03:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	If you already have the Dbol, but dont want to pin. My advice would be to get a 1T/4AD transdermal and run a cycle like this: 1-8 2-300mg 1T 1-8 3-400mg 4AD 1-4 30-40mg Dbol.

31-12-2004, 04:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	If you are really unsure of needles as well as the above id like to add that testosterone undecanoate capsules (Restandol, Andriol, Nuvir) are a good alternative but you'll need at least 8 per day (I know a BB'er who uses 40 per day) so it gets kinda expensive. Also, a test prop in thin oil (Ethyl Oleate) such as Virormone can be administered subceutaneously into stomach fat with an insulin pin. Ive even done I.M. with it before but it needs to be slowly done. Once the barriers are down using the insulin pin, try an orange, before you know it you'll be wanting a green just for the pain :twisted:

31-12-2004, 05:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	You could also convert cattle pellets to active bases: I think you can get tren and Test bases. These could easily be made into a transdermal. 200mg Test base and Tren base a day would make for an excellent 8 week cycle. Again, you could kickstart with Dbol