winney & sust

muscleheadz

Guys...

I'm planning to start my winney & sust cycle next month for 6 weeks after a month off during ramadan. I was on deca prior to that. Hoping for some good gains.

My questions are:
1) is 6 weeks enough to be on the cycle? My goal is to gain mass while not gaining fat/water. Will be doing cardio twice a week.

2) Read somewhere inthis forum that there were people who had injected winney directly into triceps & shoulders. Where exactly do you inject into the tricep? The long head (inner head?), or the short head (outer head)?

3) can i pull both winney and sust into the same shringe so i don't have to inject twice? Just wondering if this can be done since winney id water based and sust is oil based. If so, can still inject the combination of the two into the triceps?

4) When injecting into the triceps, do i inject 3 ml winney + 1 ml sust into EACH tricep in the same day or divide it into two, i.e. 1.5 ml winney + 0.5 ml sust into each tricep?

Thanks guys...
MH

polysci

All I can comment on is that you CANNOT combine winny and sust in a single syringe. As you know, its because they are not of the same make-up, oil based/water

muscleheadz

polysci...
thanks.....thats what i thought too.......

guys...
Any comments on the other matters...???

GettinSwole

1) 6 weeks isn't long enough for sust and winny. sust won't even kick in for 3 weeks. It needs to be at least 8 weeks.
2) see this website: http://www.spotinjections.com - look under tricep or wherever you want to inject.
3)No, different bases... use different syringes/needles
4) If you inject 3cc into a tricep, you are completely insane. It's not big enough. The ONLY place I would put 3cc is in my arse. You might could get away w/ it in a quad, but still I'd say arse is the only way to go w/ 3cc. 1cc is the most I would do in a tricep.

Extreme

I guess it depends upon the size of your individual muscle groups, I think nothing of putting 3ml into a deltoid or a tricep. In the UK our hospitals will put up to 3ml into a delt (subject to size), I have 3 ex girlfriends who were fully qualified nurses and all said my injection technique was as good as anyone they had worked with.

I disagree also with your statement about sustanon "not kicking in for 3 weeks" this is rubbish, how long do you think the half life is on this drug? Have you ever taken REAL Organon sustanon? Within 5 days you will have a recurring hardon that could knock holes in walls and you will be so horny you'll want to hump anything not called Gran!

The BNF (British National Formulary) advises a shot of sustanon every 3 weeks, so it may well be active for that length of time but it starts acting faster than Swole says.

GettinSwole

I'm not talking about when you start getting horny, extreme... sust has prop in it... a VERY SMALL amount of prop... the half-life on prop is 4.5 days - so yes you will get horny. However you won't start seeing any significant strength gains for about 3 weeks when the other esters kick in. 50mg prop isn't going to make you up your bench in the first week...

muscleheadz

thanks for the feedback swole & extreme....

I guess it depends on the individual.....i when i started to use sust + deca for my first cycle about 4 months ago, i started to noticed gains within 1 1/2 weeks.

my size is about average...so i'll try to be on the safe side and use 1.5 ml....
do i inject 1.5 ml winney + 1 ml sust into each tricep in the same day, or do i do one tricep each injection?? I'll be injecting twice a week, for 8 weeks instead of 6 weeks as suggested by swole.... my cycle is 3 ml winney + 2 ml sust per week....