Anadrol 50

Eastbayray

Had anyone out there used anadrol 50. I need some advice.
How are the sides - i'm looking for peoples personal experiences, i know all the formal writing on the drug.

Is the acne really that bad?

What about the gyno.

And how are the pumps?

Garry_8472

By anadrol 50 do you mean anapalon ?

If so I've used it twice once about 10 years ago that was by syntex and again earlier this year for 5 weeks.

The syntex caused a few spots and boils and gave quite good results though the gyno was quite bad needed nolvadex and it was heavy on the liver.

This year I used androlic by british dispensary. It was a much better "cleaner" drug no gyno, very few spots no liver probs and great results. I'll def use again.

Don't use to much (dose depends on bodyweight) and don't run it for more than 5-6 weeks.

Eastbayray

Thanks G, that's sound advice, will make sure it is by brit dispensary.

Were the pumps any good?

Heres a thing, i heard that d-bol, miligram for miligram, is a stronger drug. I.E if you took 50mg of d-bol, you'd get much better results than from 50mg anapolon?

Do the gians vanish once you discontinue tho?

Garry, do you cycle as many weeks on as off, or are you on longer. I've seen your picture, and, wal, that arm is bigger than you, man.

Garry_8472

I normally cycle 6-8weeks on 2 weeks off and a month off a xmas.

You do get a better pump because of the increased red blood cell count.

Its not that dianabol is "stronger" I believe (I'm sure david or abbsfreak will explain it more technically) that it is just more efficient so that more of what you take can be used but anapalon is more powerfull drug. You do crash quite quickly off anapalon faster than from anything else I've used

GettinSwole

I haven't used yet, but there are some goodies in transit to my place right now. After about 4 weeks on it, I'll let you know what I think of it.

Eastbayray

Thanks, look forward to hearing them.

Garry, how long have you been taking roids? Is two weeks surficient rest between cycles? And when you go off on those weeks, do you do PCT or just let yourself crash and then go back on after the two weeks are over.

Eveywhere else i've read they say time on = time off (minimum)

But I've been questioning the validity of this. Are we over cautions?

Garry, do you know any one who is on all year round? How longs the longest you've ever been on.

Cheers, mate.

GettinSwole

Sometimes we may be a little over-cautious, but the saying "better safe than sorry" falls into play. I know a guy that's been on for 2 1/2 years and is now coming clean for 2-3 months. He's scared.

Eastbayray

But here me out here. 'Time on = time off' should, and must, be aplied to oral steroids. Since - and i don't know if i'm alone in thinking this - i think the worst side effect of steroids IS liver damage. Gyno you can prevent/have removed, zits can be sqeuzed; liver damage is different, the death from it is slow and excruciatingly painful. Shrunk nuts are reversible. And cardio defeatcts are long term and cannot actually be linked efficiently to steroids but remain a risk due to HDL levels etc. Therefore one should avoid (whenever taking steroids) fatty foods typical to those used when bulking. In other words, to be safe(er) you should never eat anything but clean while taking roids. A rule i am from now on going to strictly adhear to.

Now, back to my point. I myself only cycle on = off becuse i am worried about liver damage. So, as garry said you could cycle two weeks off if you were eight weeks on, but would that give your liver adequet time to regenerate? Heres what i'd suggest, and i am whoally open to corection.

When you're 'on' start the cycle with two weeks of injectables only (thus coupled with the two weeks you've had off from orals that gives your liver a break the same as if you were off entriely. After those two weeks you can then kick an oral back in. Even better, you could end it two weeks before you go off again, so that you liver in total gets a break from alkalation for a total of 6 weeks when you are only off the roids for two weeks!

What do you think?

Garry_8472

Your right liver damage is the most worrying aspect of side effects, when I've been using 8 on 2 off for the last 3-4 years I have only been using injectables no orals at all in at doses of 500mg/week test cyp and 200mg/week deca and the deca was underdosed. I have only been on the orals again since end august.

It is up to us as individuals to asses are own risks and make are own decisions as to what we do. Just because someone else does it don't make it right.

If we all stuck to the rules for what is best for are health do you really think we'd see the monsters on stage at the olympia ?

Eastbayray

Your arm says it all, Garry.

I'm gonna start trying this 6-8 weeks on, 2 weeks off. I've been cycling on=off and by the time i've taken all this shit to bring my test back up, it just getts surpressed again (espesially if i'm off for the time i'm on), and it feels kind of pointless. I would be on all year round but i don't like injecting all too much, so i have to mix with orals. The truth is I as a bodybuilder am only really concered about the damage to my liver that's why i say this. Whatever else is damaged i nthe long run is risk i am comfortable with and willing to take.

We must not avoid risks but take measures to manage them.

To me, yuor real concern is those oral on yuor liver, so, like i said, you could still cycle 8 weeks on 2 off provided you set it up youbegin two weeks no oral and close two weeks no orals, and then cease eveything and break for two weeks, and you're back on and YOU LIVER HAS HAD THE REST IT WOULD GET ANYWAY.

Provided this is your concern, of coruse.