Strength cycle?

g man · 24-10-2004, 01:22 PM

So i think im gonna do

week 1-6 30-40mg anavar ED
Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enth

Q. can i load 2ml ie 500mg and do it in 1 shot or do i need to do 250mg mon then 250mg thur or does it not matter either way?

GettinSwole · 24-10-2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by g man

So i think im gonna do

week 1-6 30-40mg anavar ED
Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enth

Q. can i load 2ml ie 500mg and do it in 1 shot or do i need to do 250mg mon then 250mg thur or does it not matter either way?

Yes it is that long, detection time for test enan is 3-4 months, propionate is about 2 weeks. Anavar is about 3 weeks.
You can load both into one or do them seperately. I don't like shooting that much in one shot, so I seperate them. It doesn't hurt to do it at the same time though. Your cycle looks very good for a first cycle. Best of luck with that.

g man · 04-11-2004, 12:24 PM

This is my new idea

week 1-4 dbol 25mg ED (i've used 20mg ed and had good strength gains)
week 7-13 Anavar 40mg ED
Week 2-12 500mg Test Enap EW
Week 12-15 HCG
Week 14-18 PCT

What ya think will i get strong?

cheers

Tiger · 04-11-2004, 04:57 PM

You're overcomplicating things, stick with:

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week 1-6 30-40mg anavar ED
Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enth

GettinSwole · 04-11-2004, 05:32 PM

Personally I think you should do dbol@30mg, test @ 500 as u have. I highly doubt you'll need HCG... and if you do, don't use it for PCT b/c it causes gyno. Use it in the middle of your cycle, probably 6 weeks in once a week @ a low dose for 3 weeks. This will minimize your atrophy and suppression.

Anonymous · 10-11-2004, 09:52 PM

I would just stick with Dbol and Test. Anavar is to expensive IMO for all you get out of it.

GTForce · 12-11-2004, 09:51 AM

I would do the test enanthate right from day one as it will take a few weeks to fully kick in. I think that taking d-bol for the first 3 weeks is a good idea. D-bol helps you retain water which improves leverage on lifts and allows you to use heavier weight. After 3 weeks, the test will be fully kicking. Throw in some trenbolone acetate around week 6 and run it at 75mg every other day. Stop the test E at week 8 and continue the tren until week 10. I didn't get much of anything from anavar, but tren helps with aggression (save it for the gym) and definitely improves strength.

So : Test enanthate weeks 1-8 @ 500mg/week
D-bol weeks 1-3 @ 25mg/day
Trenbolone acetate weeks 6-10 @ 75mg eod
PCT week 11

Seeing as you have limited experience I would actually just do the d-bol
and the test, but, if you feel you could use a little boost, add the tren.
Further, anavar is too expensive and creatine is almost as powerful as anavar! Anavar has a rep as a "strength drug" but I think it is way overrated. It is good for very moderate lean gains and makes for an easy PCT, but you will get much stronger with d-bol, tren and, especially, testosterone. By the way, the tren will be detectable for 4-5 months.

Best of luck whatever you decide to do!

GTF

redneil1975 · 12-11-2004, 04:38 PM

hcg causes gyno?realy?im doing 200mg decce/week and 500mg sustanon/week for 12 weeks.Should i do without hcg as well?

GTForce · 12-11-2004, 06:34 PM

Yes...HCG can cause gyno, however, so can sustanon. Not to worry...just add some nolvadex at 10-20 mg per day if you find your nipples getting sensitive. Actually, you may want to try nolva at 10mg combined with proviron at 25mg to combat gyno as proviron is a very weak androgenic in itself. Some claim that it actually enhances the use of testosterone by binding to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) thus increasing the amount of "free" test you will have in system. How are you planning on running the HCG?

redneil1975 · 13-11-2004, 03:05 PM

Unsure about hcg now at all.!st injectable cycle.Think it is neccessary?I am gyno sensitive and as such have nolva at hand. :?

04-11-2004, 05:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
GettinSwole Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 372 Rep Power:	Personally I think you should do dbol@30mg, test @ 500 as u have. I highly doubt you'll need HCG... and if you do, don't use it for PCT b/c it causes gyno. Use it in the middle of your cycle, probably 6 weeks in once a week @ a low dose for 3 weeks. This will minimize your atrophy and suppression. ______________________ thricefan@cyber-rights.net You have to do what others won't to achieve what others don't.

12-11-2004, 09:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
GTForce Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 198 Rep Power:	I would do the test enanthate right from day one as it will take a few weeks to fully kick in. I think that taking d-bol for the first 3 weeks is a good idea. D-bol helps you retain water which improves leverage on lifts and allows you to use heavier weight. After 3 weeks, the test will be fully kicking. Throw in some trenbolone acetate around week 6 and run it at 75mg every other day. Stop the test E at week 8 and continue the tren until week 10. I didn't get much of anything from anavar, but tren helps with aggression (save it for the gym) and definitely improves strength. So : Test enanthate weeks 1-8 @ 500mg/week D-bol weeks 1-3 @ 25mg/day Trenbolone acetate weeks 6-10 @ 75mg eod PCT week 11 Seeing as you have limited experience I would actually just do the d-bol and the test, but, if you feel you could use a little boost, add the tren. Further, anavar is too expensive and creatine is almost as powerful as anavar! Anavar has a rep as a "strength drug" but I think it is way overrated. It is good for very moderate lean gains and makes for an easy PCT, but you will get much stronger with d-bol, tren and, especially, testosterone. By the way, the tren will be detectable for 4-5 months. Best of luck whatever you decide to do! GTF ______________________ You don't win friends with salad

12-11-2004, 06:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
GTForce Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 198 Rep Power:	Yes...HCG can cause gyno, however, so can sustanon. Not to worry...just add some nolvadex at 10-20 mg per day if you find your nipples getting sensitive. Actually, you may want to try nolva at 10mg combined with proviron at 25mg to combat gyno as proviron is a very weak androgenic in itself. Some claim that it actually enhances the use of testosterone by binding to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) thus increasing the amount of "free" test you will have in system. How are you planning on running the HCG? ______________________ You don't win friends with salad

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24-10-2004, 01:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
g man Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10 Rep Power:	So i think im gonna do week 1-6 30-40mg anavar ED Week 1-10 500mg/week Test Enth Q. can i load 2ml ie 500mg and do it in 1 shot or do i need to do 250mg mon then 250mg thur or does it not matter either way?

04-11-2004, 12:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
g man Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10 Rep Power:	This is my new idea week 1-4 dbol 25mg ED (i've used 20mg ed and had good strength gains) week 7-13 Anavar 40mg ED Week 2-12 500mg Test Enap EW Week 12-15 HCG Week 14-18 PCT What ya think will i get strong? cheers

10-11-2004, 09:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	I would just stick with Dbol and Test. Anavar is to expensive IMO for all you get out of it.

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redneil1975 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: inverness Posts: 32 Rep Power:	hcg causes gyno?realy?im doing 200mg decce/week and 500mg sustanon/week for 12 weeks.Should i do without hcg as well?

13-11-2004, 03:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
redneil1975 Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: inverness Posts: 32 Rep Power:	Unsure about hcg now at all.!st injectable cycle.Think it is neccessary?I am gyno sensitive and as such have nolva at hand. :?