desperate for help!

wanna be huge

hi dudes ,
will be starting 500 mg/wk test ent for 10 wks.
adding proviron 25 mg ED.
pct after 2 wks nolva +clkomid.

now if my blood pressure increases should i stop the cycle and start pct .
and if i get bloating and gyno should i use nolva 20 mg ed to avoid it
(PREVENTION BETTER THAN CURE THEORY)

sauceman

your blood pressure is going to increase no matter what... maybe only slightly tho... monitor it and if it gets out of the safe range for an extended amount of time you may consider stpping. DRINK A LOT OF WATER and yu will be ok. most likely you will be fine bro. you shouldnt have a problem. go with 10mg nolva everyday to prevent gyno symptoms. nolva will also help with the bloat. once you have gyno, theres no cure except surgery. prevention!!! better safe than sorry


sauceman

wanna be huge

thanks for u reply mate
like should i take 10 mg nolva ed from day one ?
and when i start with proviron should i stop the nolva?

wanna be huge

proviron will be fro 4th wk~

wanna be huge

sauceman,
read my postsauceman,

Ric

Start the nolva from day 1 at 10mg ED and keep it up till the end of your cycle. If you do get itchy nips increase to 20mg ED till it ceases then revert back to 10mg ED

nebodybuilder

it`s only my opinion, and you know your body better than i do, but i`d suggest not to use proviron from the start of the cycle and don`t use the tamox at all unless it`s neccessary. a ten week course of 500 mgs enan pw shouldn`t give you too many problems with gyno unless you`re really sensitive to it. remember, in order for the gear to work to it`s full potential, it`ll need some estrogenic activity in the cell site. start on the test alone, see how it goes. if the nips get sore, ad the nolvadex. either way, i`d pay more attention to what i put in my mouth than what i put in my glutes. that`ll have the biggest effect on your blood pressure and how you look.

Ric

Sorry mate but I don't agree at all.

GYno can only be removed by surgery so as far as I am concerned it is better to take Nolva/ tamox @ 10mg ed as a preventative measure and increase it if nessecary.

So if he followed your advice and is sensitive to gyno he would be more likely to have problems.

See my point ???

nebodybuilder

starting off any course from day one with nolvadex is advisable in only 2 circumstances
1. the individual is very sensitive to a estrogen buildup and already knows it or
2. the individual has specific interest in keeping estrogen levels as low as possible, perhaps for an upcoming show ( such as me right know).
otherwise, i honestly don`t see the need to addition an anti-estrogen. he may be susceptable to chronic acne too, but would you advise him to use accutane from day one, just in case.
gyno is only a problem if left unchecked, when the circulating estrogens rise to a degree where they are binding in large numbers to the receptors. this is usually when the nips feel sensitive and tamox should be used. at this stage it`s only fluid under there, and that will go with the tamox. surgery is only required if he ignores this, and let`s the fluid buildup carry on and tissue is formed under the nipple.

Ric

As I understand from his post it is his first cycle and as such would not know he is sensitive to gyno or not.

Regarding the point you tried to make about acne, it is hardly the same as acne is treatable vis drugs ect rather than surgery.

The reason I say use Nolva from day 1 is two fold:

1) It helps with the bloat.

2) I feel it is better to prevent gyno from the start rather than just act when you get itchy nips thus the nolva is already in your system so takes hold quicker to prevent gyno at all. And gyno may not occur due to the fact you have nolva present.

Lets face it armidex @ 0.25md ED would be better but who wants the cost associated with it.

I understand your point and accept your opinion, although do not agree with it as I take nolva for the above reasons.

We are all different......