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Old 20-09-2004, 12:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Bro's. I have 24 Deca Durabolin, and 20 sustanon 250 on han. also have pct. clomid and nolva. wanna gain about 15-25lbs. i think i wanna try out only one kind so i know where the sides came from. You think i shall start with tehe Deca, Susta or comine the both? thx, for any awsers.

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Old 20-09-2004, 05:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Stack them together.

You don't want to use deca without some form of test (you DEFINITELY dont want to find out the sides of taking that alone.

Sustanon can hurt to inject.. but if you add deca to it, it's not as bad.

So stack them!
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hi mate, what are your stats etc, is this your first cycle?


these are questions that need answers imo mate before we can educate and give the you the best info,
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I am 21 years old, about 76kg, 180cm. Have trained for about 3years with great results. yes this is my first cycle. thx
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hi mate, tbh i would not use either of them in a first cycle,

test only or a dbol only cycle would be enough for you to see great gains,

if i were you i would do a sus only cycle at 500mg ew week,

injection monday night thursday morning,

nolve on hand in case of gyno and pct as usual,

if you are gonna use the deca either way then run the test for a week longer than the deca,
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if i were you i would do a sus only cycle at 500mg ew week,

injection monday night thursday morning,
2x a week injections isnt enough for sustanon.

You need to be injecting EOD to get the proper benefit of the faster acting tests in it too.
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if i were you i would do a sus only cycle at 500mg ew week,

injection monday night thursday morning,
2x a week injections isnt enough for sustanon.

You need to be injecting EOD to get the proper benefit of the faster acting tests in it too.
so are you telling me that after taking 500mg of sus ew that you wont see any gains????

how many cycles have you done??

i know sus is better with eod injections, but for a first cycle, ?

imo test enen on its own at 500mg ew would be a good first cycle but seeing as he has sus already then why not use,

he will get gains off this and they will be good,
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so are you telling me that after taking 500mg of sus ew that you wont see any gains????
No, that isn't what I said at all. I said that if you only inject twice a week on sustanon, you'll not get the benefit of the faster acting tests.

I agree - Test Enan is a better first cycle. But if you're going to run sust instead, you might as well get the most out of it by injecting EOD.
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Sure i know i will get great gains with a susta only cycle, but isn't it better to combine the susta with deca or do a deca only cycle? how much will i keep with a sustcycle??
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Sure i know i will get great gains with a susta only cycle, but isn't it better to combine the susta with deca or do a deca only cycle? how much will i keep with a sustcycle??
Yes, you'll gain fine on sus only. You'll probably gain better on sus/deca stacked. It's your first cycle... Personally if I were you I wouldn't be running sus/deca on cycle 1... I'd get hold of some test enanthate and run that on it's own. Then run your sus/deca for your second cycle.

How much you keep depends on your training, your genetics, your diet and your PCT. If you do things right, there's no reason why you won't attain your 15-25lbs target.
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