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Old 22-09-2004, 06:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Is it enough to do sustashots 2times/week, monday and thursday? I have clomis and Nolva on hand, they should last troughout the whole cycle. do i need to purchase HCG to? thx
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Old 22-09-2004, 06:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No, like I said, if you only shoot sus twice a week you will not get the full benefit of the faster acting tests. You will still get results from 2x/week but they won't be nearly as good as EOD shots.

And yes, get some HCG. This may be vital if you want to hold onto your gains.
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Old 22-09-2004, 08:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So EOD shots is the way to go, that means i shuld only take half of the susta EOD? so the total amount will be 500mg/week. If i would to buy HCG how would it be taken? i find it a little confusing. I read that you should use it in a 2week period, with every day injections. and the mixing between the powder and the sterile water sound real confusing...got any experience with HCG? Thx
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So EOD shots is the way to go, that means i shuld only take half of the susta EOD? so the total amount will be 500mg/week. If i would to buy HCG how would it be taken? i find it a little confusing. I read that you should use it in a 2week period, with every day injections. and the mixing between the powder and the sterile water sound real confusing...got any experience with HCG? Thx
Yes, split up the sus so your total amount is 500mg/week.

For HCG it shouldn't be taken for more than 2-3 weeks at a time. You'll have an amp with the white powder and an amp with sterile water. Let's assume you've got one that has 5000UI per amp. Mix it all up with the sterile water, and load it into slin pins. Usually you'd go for 500-1500UI per slin pin depending on how much you were planning on running. Store them in the refrigerator (they will last 2-3 weeks in there).

HCG has a half-life of 5 days. As such you don't need to inject it every day. Some recommend EOD, but I'd say twice a week is sufficient based on that half-life. You could run 1000UI twice a week for 2.5 weeks which uses exactly 1 amp total (5000UI).
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Old 22-09-2004, 10:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Everyone is different in the way they react to different steroids, Its really up to you but I will say this, so not overdo it on they first time.

If it helps here is what I did on my first cycle

Anabol 5mg week 1-5 @45mg a day (3 x 15mg)

Deca durabolin week 3-10 @ 200mg a week

Proviron 1 in morning and 1 in evening

Clomid for post cycle

Now this is not a perfect cycle but I found it worked for me and I gained about 8-9lbs in the first 4 weeks and easily gained your target amount. Really listen to everones opinion and make up your own mind.

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Old 23-09-2004, 02:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Sust/Deca is a good first cycle. 2x weekly inj will be fine for you.

250ml sust & 200ml Deca 2 x weekly

Mix in the same needle to reduce the number of times you need to inj and you will get next to no pain also.

EOD inj are a pain in the arse (literally), M is right about the fast acting part but you will not notice the difference on your first cycle.

As long as your training, diet & rest are in order you will gain at least 20lbs. You can train a lot harder on gear so you can really expand your routine to new levels and still recover quickly.

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the deca/susta cycle sounds better then the susta only cycle. think im going to try the cycle ric suggested. for my gains, i eat and train very strikt so my gains willl be very good if my body reacts positive to this cycle. i will keep you boys posted on my results, Thx alot everyone
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