Injecting i Deltoids.

Glenner_84 · 27-08-2004, 03:35 PM

HI bro's!
Im gonna start my first cycle in a few months, running with

Deca week1-10
Sustanon250 week1-10
gonna go for Nolva and clomid to.

Anyone done this cykle, how where your gains, did you lose much after and how much did you take a week?

Im going for injections in my delts or triceps, anyone here with experience from this injectionspots?

/:Glenn

incrediblehulk · 29-08-2004, 11:07 PM

How much deca and sus you taking each week?
If i was you i'd lose the sus and throw in some d-bol instead for the first six weeks. and only do the deca for eight. Get some proviron aswell cos your gonna experience limp noodle with the deca (imo). Leave the sus out cos you dont know how your bodies going to respond yet. Testosterone can be quite harsh (so can dbol - i know, but at least with d-bol its out of your system in a couple of days and you can discontinue it and start the nolvadex) and sus inparticular stays active four a month (roughly). Any negative effects can therefore escalate even after discontinuation. plus, deca and d-bol as a first cycle rock. To quote dan duchaine - "if you cant grow on deca and d-bol, you cant grow on anything".
I'd use (infact i did use and gained 19lbs) for my first cycle 400mg a week of deca and 25mg a day of dbol. Or if your a big lad already try 30-35mg a day of dbol.
Just my opinion

sauceman · 31-08-2004, 11:21 PM

no no no .... do not use deca without a test! keep the sust bro, you will not experience a limp noodle if you run your test higher than your deca!! deca and dbol is what they did back in the 80's... we have learned a lot since then, no test= no cycle !!! many will have different opinions but thats the way it goes. those are 2 very good compounds, you may want to consider runnign a sust only or sust dbol cycle for your first course, but no more than 2 compounds on your first cycle. it is important to see how your body reacts to certain compounds. glad you are doing your research....

sauceman

ultimate muscle uk · 01-09-2004, 12:13 AM

i would just run a test enen cycle 500mg ew, you could throw in some dbol say at 35mg ed,

oh test enen week 1-8

dbol week 1-4

start milk thistle 1 week before dbol and finish 1 week after dbol,

pct as normal and nolve on hand for possible gyno

Ric · 01-09-2004, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sauceman

no no no .... do not use deca without a test! keep the sust bro, you will not experience a limp noodle if you run your test higher than your deca!! deca and dbol is what they did back in the 80's... we have learned a lot since then, no test= no cycle !!! many will have different opinions but thats the way it goes. those are 2 very good compounds, you may want to consider runnign a sust only or sust dbol cycle for your first course, but no more than 2 compounds on your first cycle. it is important to see how your body reacts to certain compounds. glad you are doing your research....

sauceman

Hey Sauceman,

Top advise as usual I see, I agree with you totally. You sure know your shit.

Definetly Sust over test eth, sust is the daddy of all tests !!

Anonymous · 03-09-2004, 11:57 PM

Why sustanon over enanthate? Good sustanon is a very good compound, but shit sust is still shit and good enanthate is very good too and seems more readily available than good sustanon at times.

I think you are going for a good starter course with sustanon and deca, mine was 250mlsust, 200ml deca and oral winstrol at 25mg daily. (If they were full strenth!)

I think you should go for 200mg deca weekly for 5 weeks and 250 mg sust every 5 days for 6 weeks. Week 7 should be 30 mg dbol and week 8 50mg, this is to keep your test levels elevated as the deca and sust leave your system.

I would also advise you to take half a clomid week 7, 8 + 9 to get your own levels back up again fast.

Remember, the gear can only work as well as your diet will allow it, keep the protein high and regular and keep the carbs sensible with out allowing calorie shortage enduced catabolism.

27-08-2004, 03:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Glenner_84 Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 35 Rep Power:	Injecting i Deltoids. HI bro's! Im gonna start my first cycle in a few months, running with Deca week1-10 Sustanon250 week1-10 gonna go for Nolva and clomid to. Anyone done this cykle, how where your gains, did you lose much after and how much did you take a week? Im going for injections in my delts or triceps, anyone here with experience from this injectionspots? /:Glenn

31-08-2004, 11:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
sauceman Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US new york Posts: 47 Rep Power:	no no no .... do not use deca without a test! keep the sust bro, you will not experience a limp noodle if you run your test higher than your deca!! deca and dbol is what they did back in the 80's... we have learned a lot since then, no test= no cycle !!! many will have different opinions but thats the way it goes. those are 2 very good compounds, you may want to consider runnign a sust only or sust dbol cycle for your first course, but no more than 2 compounds on your first cycle. it is important to see how your body reacts to certain compounds. glad you are doing your research.... sauceman ______________________ < sauceman >

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29-08-2004, 11:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
incrediblehulk Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power:	How much deca and sus you taking each week? If i was you i'd lose the sus and throw in some d-bol instead for the first six weeks. and only do the deca for eight. Get some proviron aswell cos your gonna experience limp noodle with the deca (imo). Leave the sus out cos you dont know how your bodies going to respond yet. Testosterone can be quite harsh (so can dbol - i know, but at least with d-bol its out of your system in a couple of days and you can discontinue it and start the nolvadex) and sus inparticular stays active four a month (roughly). Any negative effects can therefore escalate even after discontinuation. plus, deca and d-bol as a first cycle rock. To quote dan duchaine - "if you cant grow on deca and d-bol, you cant grow on anything". I'd use (infact i did use and gained 19lbs) for my first cycle 400mg a week of deca and 25mg a day of dbol. Or if your a big lad already try 30-35mg a day of dbol. Just my opinion

01-09-2004, 12:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
ultimate muscle uk Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 44 Rep Power:	i would just run a test enen cycle 500mg ew, you could throw in some dbol say at 35mg ed, oh test enen week 1-8 dbol week 1-4 start milk thistle 1 week before dbol and finish 1 week after dbol, pct as normal and nolve on hand for possible gyno

03-09-2004, 11:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Why sustanon over enanthate? Good sustanon is a very good compound, but shit sust is still shit and good enanthate is very good too and seems more readily available than good sustanon at times. I think you are going for a good starter course with sustanon and deca, mine was 250mlsust, 200ml deca and oral winstrol at 25mg daily. (If they were full strenth!) I think you should go for 200mg deca weekly for 5 weeks and 250 mg sust every 5 days for 6 weeks. Week 7 should be 30 mg dbol and week 8 50mg, this is to keep your test levels elevated as the deca and sust leave your system. I would also advise you to take half a clomid week 7, 8 + 9 to get your own levels back up again fast. Remember, the gear can only work as well as your diet will allow it, keep the protein high and regular and keep the carbs sensible with out allowing calorie shortage enduced catabolism.