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20-08-2004, 08:53 AM
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 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:  |  Thinking about this cycle in the winter - advice please Hello I am thinking about doing the following cycle in November time this year but need a bit of advice. This would be my first cycle but like all newbies (to steroids, not training) I don't wanna inject. Week 1-6 - 30mg dianabol week 4-8 - Winstrol Tablets Week 8 - 10 - Nolvadex Does this sound ok to you guys? How much Winstol should I take each day? Do you think the cycle is a bit long for an oral? |
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20-08-2004, 01:48 PM
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| Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US new york Posts: 47 Rep Power: | hi mark, im not trying to flame you but im going to give a little advice and my opinion of this. i was just like you when i started, didnt want anything to do with the needles so i decided on a similar cylce and let me tell you it SUCKED, i gained mostly water and lost all my size and strength after even with proper pct. then i got really fat. not good!! waste of money in my opinion. im gonna say if needles arent for you then steroids may not be for you bro. i would not recomend runningn 2 orals at the same time either, its not good on the liver. but many do it anyways. if you had some test in that cyle it would be great!!!! this is what i would recomend for you as a beginner... week 1-4 - 30mg dbol everyday week 1-10 400-500mg test C or E a week week 8-12 50mg winny everyday nolva run throughout entire cycle and pct pct: proper clomid therapy thats what i would suggest but i know the newbies , you will probably decide to do your orals only , however i wouldnt suggest it but this is what i would do... week 1-5 30mg dbol everyday week 6-10winny tabs 50mg everyday week 1-5 nolva 10mg every day day after last pill start pct with clomid and nolva im not sure how effectiuve the winny would be because you will be holding so much water from the dbols but it might help control the water weight also. dbol=bulk and winny=cut, kinda pointless to run at the same time. get some test as dbol is mainly used to kickstart a cylce of test that takes about 4 weeks to fully kick in. no test=no cycle in my opinion. i know ohters will have differnt opinions but wait and see. dont waste your money or time, but you will probably do it anyways and learn the hard way. good luck bro. any questions feel free to ask. sauceman ______________________ < sauceman > |
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20-08-2004, 03:30 PM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North West - UK Posts: 168 Rep Power: | Mark, Please don't run the cycle you suggested, you will spend cash on steriods that you might as well give to me or pour down the drain as well as put your liver through hell for no reason. I have a backround in biology & pharmacology so know my stuff, just so you know. As Sauceman stated there is absolutly no point running a cycle without Test. Get over needles or get on without steriods. If you do decide to do it then I implore you not to........ ______________________ "Training is not a hobby but a way of life" "All of my advise is for role playing purposes only, I do not in anyway condone the use of steroids" |
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20-08-2004, 03:41 PM
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| Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power: | Thanks for the advice guys - this is what site like this are for I guess! I appreciate your advice and will take note. The problem I have is that I live with parents still and they would kick me out at first glance of a needle if they found one. Any other suggestions about a better oral cycle, perhaps just winny? |
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20-08-2004, 06:10 PM
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| Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US new york Posts: 47 Rep Power: | winny only... well do you have a very low body fat??? winny is a muscle hardener... if your body fat isnt low you will se very minimal if any gains. TEST is the answer bro. but again to each his own! goodluck ______________________ < sauceman > |
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20-08-2004, 07:10 PM
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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power: | How about anavar or anavar / winny as a 1st oral only cycle? Or...just thinking - as anavar is not too hepatoxic, how about running it with M1T at 30mg or so a day? Ona different note, whereabouts in NY are u Sauceman - I got Royally hammered in Hoboken/Greenwich/Madison (NJ) and Newark over Xmas! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: |
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