Sus cycle - 8 weeks or more ?

mutley · 19-08-2004, 08:13 PM

Hi All,

Just finishing my first Sus cycle of 8 weeks. Will start another in a few months.

Is 8 weeks OK or would I benefit from a longer cycle - say 10-12 weeks ?

You advice appreciated as always

Anonymous · 21-08-2004, 08:20 AM

Some prefer short bursts, some go longer. I would say 10-12 is about right, its really what works best for you. You may get serious night sweats past 8 weeks, I do. The decanoate ester builds up and causes a few problems for me past 6 weeks usage.
Longer cycles are harder to recover from, and more expensive all round.

mutley · 21-08-2004, 08:54 AM

The guy I'm training with gets the night sweats. Right from the first or second amp I think.

Based on what you have just said, I'll just go for 10 weeks next time

Cheers

Anonymous · 21-08-2004, 10:28 AM

Also, you could use HCG in the middle of the 10 weeks for a week. (Nolv on hand)
The gains in that week are incredible

gus · 03-09-2004, 06:32 AM

dont use hcg in the middle of the cycle will just be a waste of time, use it after the end of your tapering, otherwise the test will just cancel it out cos in essence hcg is estrogen put into ur body to stimulate natural production of test.

just take your 20mg of tamoxifen thru the cycle that will helpo with gyno and water retention the latter especially i have found it's brill for and then when the longest test ester tapers out of your body ( the good thing of sus, as it naturally tapers due to the test mix) then the hcg.

i would go for 8 weeks personally, short sharpe and hard, tho a mate of mine did 6 months and he was in immaculate shape, tho i dont think he wanted kids cos i imagine his balls wud never work again !!! :D

Anonymous · 03-09-2004, 11:13 AM

HCG stimulates LH release. This prevents as much testicular shrinkage as would happen without it. Recovery will be better if you prevent shrinkage, fertility as well.
HCG causes a rise in natural androgen production, something missing when on gear giving better gains over its usage than just the gear alone. Its a protein hormone in its own right.
Just a few cycles where your nuts shrink could be enough to make you sterile. Do you want to risk that? If ur mate had used it thorughout his 6 monther every 5 weeks his nuts would be fine.
Most are using it now during for a week or two and DURING the last two weeks, when the taper is happening, rather than wait any. Once the half life is spent, then go clomid/nolv.
IMO definately not a waste of time during. Any extra cash that it costs you can be saved in reduced PCT.

Anonymous · 17-09-2004, 10:55 AM

go on say i'm wrong. i'm going blind. and guessing? that. you don't know why, i'm typing HCG...

Anonymous · 17-09-2004, 11:28 AM

why do this?
i do this
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it is grammatically correct
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modulman · 29-10-2004, 12:42 AM

when you say using HCG in the middle of the cycle , do you mean that in that week you stop using all the other gear and just stick to HCG and then continue with the gear once the week is over....

OR

take the HCG with the normal dosage of gear in that week....

GettinSwole · 29-10-2004, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modulman

when you say using HCG in the middle of the cycle , do you mean that in that week you stop using all the other gear and just stick to HCG and then continue with the gear once the week is over....

OR

take the HCG with the normal dosage of gear in that week....

Take the HCG in the middle of the cycle. Taking it at the end of a cycle is actually a very bad idea as it causes a quick spike of test production and can lead to gyno. Using it in the middle keeps atrophy at a minimum and causes minimal shrinkage instead of the normal atrophy.

19-08-2004, 08:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	Sus cycle - 8 weeks or more ? Hi All, Just finishing my first Sus cycle of 8 weeks. Will start another in a few months. Is 8 weeks OK or would I benefit from a longer cycle - say 10-12 weeks ? You advice appreciated as always

03-09-2004, 06:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
gus Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	HCG dont use hcg in the middle of the cycle will just be a waste of time, use it after the end of your tapering, otherwise the test will just cancel it out cos in essence hcg is estrogen put into ur body to stimulate natural production of test. just take your 20mg of tamoxifen thru the cycle that will helpo with gyno and water retention the latter especially i have found it's brill for and then when the longest test ester tapers out of your body ( the good thing of sus, as it naturally tapers due to the test mix) then the hcg. i would go for 8 weeks personally, short sharpe and hard, tho a mate of mine did 6 months and he was in immaculate shape, tho i dont think he wanted kids cos i imagine his balls wud never work again !!! :D

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modulman Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Location: glasgow Posts: 11 Rep Power:	when you say using HCG in the middle of the cycle , do you mean that in that week you stop using all the other gear and just stick to HCG and then continue with the gear once the week is over.... OR take the HCG with the normal dosage of gear in that week.... ______________________ Its not the dog in the fight that matters... Its the fight in the dog that counts

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21-08-2004, 08:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Some prefer short bursts, some go longer. I would say 10-12 is about right, its really what works best for you. You may get serious night sweats past 8 weeks, I do. The decanoate ester builds up and causes a few problems for me past 6 weeks usage. Longer cycles are harder to recover from, and more expensive all round.

21-08-2004, 08:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	The guy I'm training with gets the night sweats. Right from the first or second amp I think. Based on what you have just said, I'll just go for 10 weeks next time Cheers

21-08-2004, 10:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Also, you could use HCG in the middle of the 10 weeks for a week. (Nolv on hand) The gains in that week are incredible

03-09-2004, 11:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	HCG stimulates LH release. This prevents as much testicular shrinkage as would happen without it. Recovery will be better if you prevent shrinkage, fertility as well. HCG causes a rise in natural androgen production, something missing when on gear giving better gains over its usage than just the gear alone. Its a protein hormone in its own right. Just a few cycles where your nuts shrink could be enough to make you sterile. Do you want to risk that? If ur mate had used it thorughout his 6 monther every 5 weeks his nuts would be fine. Most are using it now during for a week or two and DURING the last two weeks, when the taper is happening, rather than wait any. Once the half life is spent, then go clomid/nolv. IMO definately not a waste of time during. Any extra cash that it costs you can be saved in reduced PCT.

17-09-2004, 10:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	go on say i'm wrong. i'm going blind. and guessing? that. you don't know why, i'm typing HCG...

17-09-2004, 11:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	why do this? i do this "..." it is grammatically correct whatisthetheoryoftheword