Dbol only 1st cycle

Axel · 30-07-2004, 02:25 PM

Ok i have got hold of 200 pink anabols, i have never took gear before this will be my first time. Should i take 35mg for 4 weeks or 30mg for 5 weeks? I have got some nolvadex for gyno and pct, and will i lose all my gains after?

Dan · 02-08-2004, 01:27 AM

Man i wouldn't use any orals for your first cycle you should add some test at 500 a week as well to prevent mucle loss

Anonymous · 02-08-2004, 08:12 AM

I hope you all had as good a weekend as me.
In essence what Dan says makes sense. Ive always been of the opinion that for a FIRST course anything is fine. I currently have a friend who is on 4 mgs winstrol tabs per day- 1 am 1 pm. He's too paranoid to increase it but is getting slight gains - i kid you not! It is all he is after.....
A dbol only course you will lose some gains- quite a lot of them even with a PCT as Dbol really retains sodium within the body more than lay down a lot of protein, so when you stop and reduce oestrogen via PCT you will deflate more than on any other compound (oxymetholone an exception). This is why people stack it with winny, test, deca etc.
Give it a go. Youve only got 200 tabs and rather than a cycle consider it more of an experiment. Start at 20 mgs/d and continue this for 2 weeks. Itll take at least 10 days to really kick in and this will be a good gauge of how you respond to it.
Increase to 30 mgs/d once the gains stop and run this till you finish, starting tamoxifen the next day at 60 mgs/d for 5 days, reduce to 40 mgs/d for 5, then 20 mgs/d for 5-7.
As per stickie record all results and reactions and report them back here if you can.
If nothing else you will see how your body reacts to dbol and at the end of it all you may only be a pound or two heavier or 10-20% stronger (1RM) but thats gotta be considered good. You may also run into problems like acne, cluster headaches, severe oedema, gyno but these are easily and quickly reversable; not so on a long acting test depot.
Subsequent cycles should contain testosterone of one sort or another. To gauge how you react to test id advise a propionate ester to begin with. This will go in with an insulin pin if you are a bit apprehensive of needles.
Hope this helps mate.

Axel · 03-08-2004, 08:58 AM

Cheers for the advice mate, looks like im gonna have to get over the fear of sticking needles inside me lol, im gonna wait about a month and try and get hold of some test ill keep you updated on my gains.

Ric · 16-08-2004, 04:54 PM

Good plan Axel.

D/bol with just make you bloat and you will see very little gains, which you will lose as soon as you finish, so basically it is a waste of your teime & money.

Just my 2 cents!

sauceman · 17-08-2004, 12:56 PM

I AGREE

Axel · 19-08-2004, 02:16 PM

Ive got everything ready so im starting this cycle in two weeks on monday.

25-30 mgs dbol a day week 1-4 maybe 1-5
500 mgs Test enanthate weeks 1-10

I hope this cycle doesn't affect my mood, thats one thing im paranoid about coz i don't want rage or anything like that.

sauceman · 19-08-2004, 06:14 PM

looks perfect to me bro... very good choice for a beginner. i hope you got some nolva and proper pct planned out. it may affect your mood, test magnifies my moods. when im happy im really happy, when im pissed im really pissed... etc etc.
for some people it doesnt really bother them that much. be prepared to want to hump anything and everything with the test

Anonymous · 20-08-2004, 12:41 AM

d-bol only courses are not that productive for the reasons stated above imo. still one of my favourites albeit i cant take anymore. use them if for no other reason than they are the biz for strength and will give you a much better pump while lifting.

Ric · 20-08-2004, 08:30 AM

Glad to see you took the advise of the board Axel, Saurceman is correct regarding the moods. I go pretty much the same way on a cycle, after a little while I got used to it and just exercise some control when I get pissed so as not to 'fly off the handle'. Luckily I don't suffer from bad skin ect.. at all so it's not that bad for me.

But also as Saurceman says it does not affect everyone in the same way, you could have no sides at all...

Best of luck and post your progress in the pregress forum so we can see how your getting on.

30-07-2004, 02:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Axel Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power:	Dbol only 1st cycle Ok i have got hold of 200 pink anabols, i have never took gear before this will be my first time. Should i take 35mg for 4 weeks or 30mg for 5 weeks? I have got some nolvadex for gyno and pct, and will i lose all my gains after?

02-08-2004, 01:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dan Making Progress Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 110 Rep Power:	Man i wouldn't use any orals for your first cycle you should add some test at 500 a week as well to prevent mucle loss ______________________ * Don't ask what your body can do for you, Ask what can you do for your body*

16-08-2004, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ric Making Progress Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North West - UK Posts: 168 Rep Power:	Good plan Axel. D/bol with just make you bloat and you will see very little gains, which you will lose as soon as you finish, so basically it is a waste of your teime & money. Just my 2 cents! ______________________ "Training is not a hobby but a way of life" "All of my advise is for role playing purposes only, I do not in anyway condone the use of steroids"

17-08-2004, 12:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
sauceman Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US new york Posts: 47 Rep Power:	I AGREE ______________________ < sauceman >

19-08-2004, 06:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
sauceman Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: US new york Posts: 47 Rep Power:	looks perfect to me bro... very good choice for a beginner. i hope you got some nolva and proper pct planned out. it may affect your mood, test magnifies my moods. when im happy im really happy, when im pissed im really pissed... etc etc. for some people it doesnt really bother them that much. be prepared to want to hump anything and everything with the test ______________________ < sauceman >

02-08-2004, 08:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	I hope you all had as good a weekend as me. In essence what Dan says makes sense. Ive always been of the opinion that for a FIRST course anything is fine. I currently have a friend who is on 4 mgs winstrol tabs per day- 1 am 1 pm. He's too paranoid to increase it but is getting slight gains - i kid you not! It is all he is after..... A dbol only course you will lose some gains- quite a lot of them even with a PCT as Dbol really retains sodium within the body more than lay down a lot of protein, so when you stop and reduce oestrogen via PCT you will deflate more than on any other compound (oxymetholone an exception). This is why people stack it with winny, test, deca etc. Give it a go. Youve only got 200 tabs and rather than a cycle consider it more of an experiment. Start at 20 mgs/d and continue this for 2 weeks. Itll take at least 10 days to really kick in and this will be a good gauge of how you respond to it. Increase to 30 mgs/d once the gains stop and run this till you finish, starting tamoxifen the next day at 60 mgs/d for 5 days, reduce to 40 mgs/d for 5, then 20 mgs/d for 5-7. As per stickie record all results and reactions and report them back here if you can. If nothing else you will see how your body reacts to dbol and at the end of it all you may only be a pound or two heavier or 10-20% stronger (1RM) but thats gotta be considered good. You may also run into problems like acne, cluster headaches, severe oedema, gyno but these are easily and quickly reversable; not so on a long acting test depot. Subsequent cycles should contain testosterone of one sort or another. To gauge how you react to test id advise a propionate ester to begin with. This will go in with an insulin pin if you are a bit apprehensive of needles. Hope this helps mate.

03-08-2004, 08:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Axel Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power:	Cheers for the advice mate, looks like im gonna have to get over the fear of sticking needles inside me lol, im gonna wait about a month and try and get hold of some test ill keep you updated on my gains.

19-08-2004, 02:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Axel Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power:	Ive got everything ready so im starting this cycle in two weeks on monday. 25-30 mgs dbol a day week 1-4 maybe 1-5 500 mgs Test enanthate weeks 1-10 I hope this cycle doesn't affect my mood, thats one thing im paranoid about coz i don't want rage or anything like that.

20-08-2004, 12:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	d-bol only courses are not that productive for the reasons stated above imo. still one of my favourites albeit i cant take anymore. use them if for no other reason than they are the biz for strength and will give you a much better pump while lifting.

20-08-2004, 08:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ric Making Progress Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North West - UK Posts: 168 Rep Power:	Glad to see you took the advise of the board Axel, Saurceman is correct regarding the moods. I go pretty much the same way on a cycle, after a little while I got used to it and just exercise some control when I get pissed so as not to 'fly off the handle'. Luckily I don't suffer from bad skin ect.. at all so it's not that bad for me. But also as Saurceman says it does not affect everyone in the same way, you could have no sides at all... Best of luck and post your progress in the pregress forum so we can see how your getting on. ______________________ "Training is not a hobby but a way of life" "All of my advise is for role playing purposes only, I do not in anyway condone the use of steroids"

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