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Old 07-07-2004, 07:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Guys, although ive spent many hours trawling through the forums on here, this is my first post so ill start by saying what a great site this is and well done to the mods for not allowing it to generate into the testerone fuelled battlefields that many similar sites have become. Keep it up!!

Now, onto the reason for my first post. Ive been training on and off for about 12 years now, and after months of research and deliberation finally decided to use steroids for the first time, opting to go for deca, as it appeared to be one of the least risky. Although the thought of injecting didnt exactly appeal to me, i finally plucked up the courage and did the first one (British Dragon 400mg) a couple of weeks ago. I couldnt believe how easy it was, in the right thigh, no pain at all, no bleeding and not even the slightest soreness or scarring the next few days.

The second injection was a little more painful, i think i may have hit a nerve, and there was a little soreness in the muscle the next day, but nothing to worry about i thought. However, 3 days later my knee became very swollen, and over the next couple of days the bottom half of my thigh and top of my calves began too swell also, the skin becoming hot and itchy, although there is really no pain accompanying the swelling, just mild irritation! It just feels like a layer of fluid between my skin and muscles

I didnt know for sure that this reaction was caused by the injection, so i went ahead with week 3 injection, this time in my left thigh. Similar pain when injecting and two days on and im beginning to see exactly the same symptoms in my left leg, so i guess i can now conclude its something to do with the deca injections, but what??

Ive been really careful about using sterile needles etc, could it be dodgy gear, am i injecting in the wrong place, has anyone else had any similar experiences??

My better half keeps nagging me to go and see my doctor, but i really dont fancy telling him what ive been doing and listening to a lecture, so id be really grateful if anyone can shed some light on whats happening to me!
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Old 07-07-2004, 08:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds to me that it could be due to water retention maybe start nolva at 20mg a day untill it subsides. however wait untill someone more knowledgable confirms this just incase im wrong :P
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Old 07-07-2004, 09:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When i first started injecting sometimes it would take a week before that area felt ok again, when i have jabbed my leg in the past it would sometimes take a week before it would feel ok again :? I never bother injecting the leg now, closest place to my leg i do is my Butt...i always found for me the hard part of my tricep is the best place, all i do now is alternate jabs between Butt & Triceps, also i was injecting tricep i would put half in one tricep and half in the other, it's 2 jabs yes but i found it feels better after that way...

Maybe the neddle didn't go in the perfect place and thats why it feels weird, sore and whatever... it's certainly happened to me before and i'm sure it has many others that inject steroids...you will be fine Chad.
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I agree. I'd still got to the Docs myself but I do get a bit paranoid sometimes. Go into the butt mate, so much easier. Nowadays the solvents used in injectable gear aren't like the ethyl oleate of old. Its benzyl alcohol and butylene. This is rapidly absorbed from the injection site leaving the gear to crystalise and cause soreness/swelling- but these are the first symptoms of an infection too.
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Old 08-07-2004, 03:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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sorry about the silly reply ill make sure i read the post properly next time :$ i wor in a rush at work
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice and reassurance guys, its good to get opinions from people who know a bit about the subject, rather than my hysterical missus!!

Ive just done a few sets of high rep squats to try and loosen my thighs up a bit, not sure if it helped any yet but i did get an amazing pump!

Smithy, im not quite sure why you apologised for your first reply?, I guess you mean taking anything to combat water retention is a bad idea?
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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nah i didnt read it properly the swelling has come from the injections. i thought that ur legs had just swelled up mysteriously due to taking AS which cud suggest high water retention. By all means take nolva if it becomes a problem which swolen legs wud b but dont use it untill it does become a problem as water retention can work as an advantage in libricating ur muscles and giving you extra strength.
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This post was a bit of a worry for me as it seems that people do not have a clear idea about where it is safe to inject. Saying to go with the butt is misleading as people may think they can just stick it in anywhere. It is only safe to inject in the upper outer quadrant of the buttock as the sciatic nerve runs through the lower part of the muscle.
I was wondering what needle you used to inject with. It may not have been long enough to go deep enough into the muscle and you may have had some leakage.
Please have a look at the sticky about injection technique for the exact location of injection sites.
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Old 24-07-2004, 04:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So Chad, was has been the outcome? did you go to the Docs? What was the problem? Has it gone now?

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thanks for the comments on the site and I try to stay away from confrontation altho some peeps on here love a good fight they will remain nameless Steve,oops,lol,anyway I don't think you hit a nerve on your second injection as you would experience severe burning at the site at the very least or the pain is totally unbearable and it feels like your heads goin thru the roof,beleive me I am still feelin the pain now from injectin thru a nerve and also lost a lil feelin in my leg altho it's slowly comin back.

About your approach what more can I say your a shining example m8 to newbies and have gone about thingz with the right approach,props to u

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