What Have I Done To Myself!!??

incrediblehulk · 30-08-2004, 12:57 AM

Steroid flu.... another shitty sympton. i always used to get this when using deca and sust together. Heady dizzy spells and feelin like crap.
Having said that, what you described sounds serious. I wouldn't mess about with it and wait, if your legs are seriously swollen then it sounds like a proper infection or cause for concern. Nothing good ever comes from "i'll just wait and see". Ring the NHS helpline direct. its annoymous and they wont lecture you. They might be able to figure out whats going on based on an accurate description of your symptons. Could be you have been injecting shite into your self or that the needles were infected. Swelling is usually a response from the body to say something foreign and evil is inside you. I dont want to be a scare monger nor do i want to offend any one on here, but it i think it is irresponsible for people to imply, and even explicitly applaud you for not seeking proper medical advice. your health should always be paramount. If your legs seem okay after a while it could just have been an allergic reaction, the same as when peoples throats swell up when they eat nuts. However, this in it self can be a problem.
I'd ring the NHS helpline personally

chad · 30-08-2004, 09:29 PM

Thanks for the advice and concern people. Just to conclude this one, the swelling went away after a couple of weeks, and ive been injecting in the butt since, getting some pretty decent results! Never did go to the docs so still not sure what caused the problem, but thankfully no real harm done!!

Anonymous · 30-08-2004, 10:41 PM

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"nah i didnt read it properly the swelling has come from the injections. i thought that ur legs had just swelled up mysteriously due to taking AS which cud suggest high water retention. By all means take nolva if it becomes a problem which swolen legs wud b but dont use it untill it does become a problem as water retention can work as an advantage in libricating ur muscles and giving you extra strength."

sounds to me that either your gear is not the most sterile which i have never encountered with B/D before so i doubt it. are you using blues for your leg? if so make sure they are inch and a halfs not inch long blues. inch long is to short for your leg imo. and go right in so as to avoid any oil lying subcutaneously especially sustanon as it is a heavy oil. use sterets before and after and always aspirate. wipe the top of the vial with a steret before every use also.
as far as gear causing high water retention specifically in your legs.... well id check that your socks are not to tight first before anything else.

yes gear can cause water retention especially high androgens like sustanon and other tests and some people find a bit of this advantageous as it "cushions" the muscles and enables them to get more of a pump. it doesnt "lubricate" your muscles it just gives them more room to work if you follow what im saying.
the redness and heat is sometimes the start of an infection/abcess forming. i have experienced this a few times and thanfully it always came to nothing. usually you will feel like shit for a few days and it will pass. the thing to keep an eye on is if the redness is getting more prominent and the inj. site is hardening as this is the start of an abcess. if so then get yourself to the hospital asap and you will most likely get a lecture from some pencil neck doctor and some antibiotics. ignore it and they will have to stick a drain in your ass/tri/bi/delt/leg or whatever for a few days to expel the infection, possibly after they have removed some of that hard gained muscle also so if in doubt swallow your pride guys and get it checked out.

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30-08-2004, 12:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
incrediblehulk Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power:	Steroid flu.... another shitty sympton. i always used to get this when using deca and sust together. Heady dizzy spells and feelin like crap. Having said that, what you described sounds serious. I wouldn't mess about with it and wait, if your legs are seriously swollen then it sounds like a proper infection or cause for concern. Nothing good ever comes from "i'll just wait and see". Ring the NHS helpline direct. its annoymous and they wont lecture you. They might be able to figure out whats going on based on an accurate description of your symptons. Could be you have been injecting shite into your self or that the needles were infected. Swelling is usually a response from the body to say something foreign and evil is inside you. I dont want to be a scare monger nor do i want to offend any one on here, but it i think it is irresponsible for people to imply, and even explicitly applaud you for not seeking proper medical advice. your health should always be paramount. If your legs seem okay after a while it could just have been an allergic reaction, the same as when peoples throats swell up when they eat nuts. However, this in it self can be a problem. I'd ring the NHS helpline personally

30-08-2004, 09:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
chad Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 3 Rep Power:	Thanks for the advice and concern people. Just to conclude this one, the swelling went away after a couple of weeks, and ive been injecting in the butt since, getting some pretty decent results! Never did go to the docs so still not sure what caused the problem, but thankfully no real harm done!!

30-08-2004, 10:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "nah i didnt read it properly the swelling has come from the injections. i thought that ur legs had just swelled up mysteriously due to taking AS which cud suggest high water retention. By all means take nolva if it becomes a problem which swolen legs wud b but dont use it untill it does become a problem as water retention can work as an advantage in libricating ur muscles and giving you extra strength." sounds to me that either your gear is not the most sterile which i have never encountered with B/D before so i doubt it. are you using blues for your leg? if so make sure they are inch and a halfs not inch long blues. inch long is to short for your leg imo. and go right in so as to avoid any oil lying subcutaneously especially sustanon as it is a heavy oil. use sterets before and after and always aspirate. wipe the top of the vial with a steret before every use also. as far as gear causing high water retention specifically in your legs.... well id check that your socks are not to tight first before anything else. yes gear can cause water retention especially high androgens like sustanon and other tests and some people find a bit of this advantageous as it "cushions" the muscles and enables them to get more of a pump. it doesnt "lubricate" your muscles it just gives them more room to work if you follow what im saying. the redness and heat is sometimes the start of an infection/abcess forming. i have experienced this a few times and thanfully it always came to nothing. usually you will feel like shit for a few days and it will pass. the thing to keep an eye on is if the redness is getting more prominent and the inj. site is hardening as this is the start of an abcess. if so then get yourself to the hospital asap and you will most likely get a lecture from some pencil neck doctor and some antibiotics. ignore it and they will have to stick a drain in your ass/tri/bi/delt/leg or whatever for a few days to expel the infection, possibly after they have removed some of that hard gained muscle also so if in doubt swallow your pride guys and get it checked out.