First Cycle

Smithy · 17-06-2004, 12:55 AM

just plannin my first cycle so far im gonna do 2 x 200mg test enan a week for 8 week, does this sound ok and please advise on any adjustments stats: 5' 9" , 185lbs, 17% bf. also clomid for pct and nolv on hand for gyno. great board btw :P

Anonymous · 17-06-2004, 01:59 PM

IMO mate its quite a high dose for a first timer. I agree its quite a normal dose but what if you gain fine on just one shot per week. I do. Why not try just one and see how you go at first. Monitor feelings and side effects and weight gain/strength, then maybe do two once your initial gains stop (plateau). Even on one shot your testes will shrink - by how much depends on the person (mine go by 50%) so you may want to get some HCG for PCT as well as clomid+nolvadex. The half life for enanthate is 10.5 days (after 10.5 days the dose is reduced to half) so why not try a shot every 10 days at first. Go easy with it at first bro.

Universe · 20-06-2004, 02:54 PM

increase the weeks to 10-12

Universe · 20-06-2004, 02:58 PM

I dont think the dose 400mg is alot for a newbie, I think that dose is fine bro. The reason i say do it for 10-12 weeks is because enen is a long acting ester so it would take longer time to kick in. by weeks 6-8 is when you will be making most gains...it would be stupid for you to end the cycle there, because you can make alot more gains if you did a few more weeks. so 10-12 weeks.
If you want, I would've kicked started the cycle with dbol 25-30mg weeks 1-4.

Smithy · 20-06-2004, 05:22 PM

thanks fer the replies ill see about addin sum dianabol to kick start the cycle should think 25mg a day weeks 1-4 should do

Universe · 20-06-2004, 08:02 PM

yes bro, u will be amazed with the dbol strength!!!!

Anonymous · 22-06-2004, 09:29 AM

At 400 mgs per week by week four there will be a gram of test in his system. Advice like this for a newbie is what causes the horror stories that the press pick up and label every steroid user with. It is irresponsible for someone who has never used steroids before. I'll say it again, therapeutic doses to start with. Leave the high doses till later when you actually will need them.

Iron-Lung · 28-06-2004, 04:15 PM

are you taking shots every 10days?

Iron-Lung · 28-06-2004, 04:18 PM

25mg a day is abit heavy for your first cycle on dbol. If your gonna do 25mg i suggest taking an anti oestrogen. Thats up to you

Ric · 19-08-2004, 11:45 AM

400mg of test eth is not a huge does for a newbie. I was the same weight but 6 inches taller and my first course was 500mg Sust and 200mg Deca for 10 weeks with D/bol at 30mg a day for weeks 1-4.

I gained 25lb and kept 18lb, I had a good diet, near perfect training and slept a lot. I also dropped 4lb of fat during the course by eating very clean foods.

Also I did not experience bad sides, slight aggression increase and I mean slight and nothing else apart from that unless you include my nuts being half the size. Then again my libido went through the roof, lucky I was with a girl at the time or my right arm would have 40 inch Bi's

17-06-2004, 12:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
Smithy Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 17 Rep Power:	First Cycle just plannin my first cycle so far im gonna do 2 x 200mg test enan a week for 8 week, does this sound ok and please advise on any adjustments stats: 5' 9" , 185lbs, 17% bf. also clomid for pct and nolv on hand for gyno. great board btw :P

28-06-2004, 04:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Iron-Lung Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 16 Rep Power:	are you taking shots every 10days? ______________________ You know you've worked hard because at the end of the day your hands feel like leather

28-06-2004, 04:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Iron-Lung Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 16 Rep Power:	25mg a day is abit heavy for your first cycle on dbol. If your gonna do 25mg i suggest taking an anti oestrogen. Thats up to you ______________________ You know you've worked hard because at the end of the day your hands feel like leather

19-08-2004, 11:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ric Making Progress Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North West - UK Posts: 168 Rep Power:	400mg of test eth is not a huge does for a newbie. I was the same weight but 6 inches taller and my first course was 500mg Sust and 200mg Deca for 10 weeks with D/bol at 30mg a day for weeks 1-4. I gained 25lb and kept 18lb, I had a good diet, near perfect training and slept a lot. I also dropped 4lb of fat during the course by eating very clean foods. Also I did not experience bad sides, slight aggression increase and I mean slight and nothing else apart from that unless you include my nuts being half the size. Then again my libido went through the roof, lucky I was with a girl at the time or my right arm would have 40 inch Bi's ______________________ "Training is not a hobby but a way of life" "All of my advise is for role playing purposes only, I do not in anyway condone the use of steroids"

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17-06-2004, 01:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	IMO mate its quite a high dose for a first timer. I agree its quite a normal dose but what if you gain fine on just one shot per week. I do. Why not try just one and see how you go at first. Monitor feelings and side effects and weight gain/strength, then maybe do two once your initial gains stop (plateau). Even on one shot your testes will shrink - by how much depends on the person (mine go by 50%) so you may want to get some HCG for PCT as well as clomid+nolvadex. The half life for enanthate is 10.5 days (after 10.5 days the dose is reduced to half) so why not try a shot every 10 days at first. Go easy with it at first bro.

20-06-2004, 02:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Universe Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7 Rep Power:	increase the weeks to 10-12

20-06-2004, 02:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Universe Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7 Rep Power:	I dont think the dose 400mg is alot for a newbie, I think that dose is fine bro. The reason i say do it for 10-12 weeks is because enen is a long acting ester so it would take longer time to kick in. by weeks 6-8 is when you will be making most gains...it would be stupid for you to end the cycle there, because you can make alot more gains if you did a few more weeks. so 10-12 weeks. If you want, I would've kicked started the cycle with dbol 25-30mg weeks 1-4.

20-06-2004, 05:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Smithy Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 17 Rep Power:	thanks fer the replies ill see about addin sum dianabol to kick start the cycle should think 25mg a day weeks 1-4 should do

20-06-2004, 08:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Universe Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7 Rep Power:	yes bro, u will be amazed with the dbol strength!!!!

22-06-2004, 09:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	At 400 mgs per week by week four there will be a gram of test in his system. Advice like this for a newbie is what causes the horror stories that the press pick up and label every steroid user with. It is irresponsible for someone who has never used steroids before. I'll say it again, therapeutic doses to start with. Leave the high doses till later when you actually will need them.