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Old 17-05-2004, 02:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default My Bulking/Cutting Cycle

Yo guys, anybody have any comments on the following cycle.

Weeks 1 - 10 2ml deca per week
Weeks 1 - 5 30mg dbol per day
Weeks 6 - 10 50mg oral Strombar (Winstrol)

Week 11, 12, 13 - 1 vial HGC per week

I intend to take nolvadex daily throughout this cycle.

I intend to use the dbol and deca to gain muscle and then the strombar and deca to harden these gains. My entire course is costing me 225 for everything including needles etc. Hope i am not being robbed.

As i said, any positive feedback would be greatly appreciated

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Old 18-05-2004, 09:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Personally, I would take a lower dose for longer but that works for me. What I would say is why the nolvadex daily throughout the cycle. I wouldnt do that. Are you really prone to gyno?
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Old 18-05-2004, 06:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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no im not prone but the guy i got the gear off told me to take it, he reckons that it has a lot of other positive properties apart from stopping gyno. Why do you think it is not necessary?

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Because its a synthetic oestrogen and does not have any other good properties and even retards growth. Proviron is the one to take with AS to prevent oestrogen related side effects.
Nolvadex is a horrible old drug. Worth keeping on hand when on major testosterone in case of gyno and then only taken for a few days to reduce the problem. If this stuff is new to you dont rely on the advice of the guy selling you the equipment. Conflict of interest. Start low and increase when the gains plateau. See how you go. Safety first. You may gain enough on 200mgs deca/week and 2 dbol per day for the first 4 weeks and you are not risking major side effects. The chances are you wont get any but id err on the side of caution to start with.
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Thanks for that, do you think i could get away with dropping the deca to 200mg and then possibly lenghten my cycle or just stick to lower dose and keep my gear for next time. I appreciate the advice on the nolva. I havent started taking it yet because i was having some doubts myself.
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Either or really. Up to you. Personnaly id do lower for longer but short courses with short breaks are better for some. Just monitor how you go. Write everything down- food intake, weight gain, weights lifted, how you feel on each day, water intake, sleep pattern etc etc etc. If things start feeling not so good in a department, then you may want to change things.
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Old 21-05-2004, 11:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Cheers for that. Have you got any tips on how to make tuna fish taste ****ing edible. Thats the one thing i cant get away with!!!!

Seriously mate, i appreciate the advice


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Ya may not like my suggestion but what i do is just dump a tin of tuna in a blender, then pour a pint of ice cold Grapefruit juice in with it. Blend it all together and voila.
The grapefruit juice kind of cancels out the harsh taste of tuna. It's not nice but it's an easy way to get the protein down ya.

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I wouldn't bother withn the nolvadex daily either. You could take some if you started to see signs of gyno but other wise dont bother until the end of the cycle were you could use it with the hcg. Proviron, as mentioned earlier, has been proven to help increase the gains when taking winstrol. it is to do with it being an androgen steroid. it will also help to give your sex drive a kick start after the d-bol. The cycle is other wise sound. I disagree with some of the comments made about doing the cycle longer. if your new to this (or not for that matter) you should never really take the likes of d-bol for too long anyway. you could maybe think about using the winstrol for a bit longer though. the price you gave seems about right.
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