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Old 28-04-2004, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Is it true that some naturals competing still use steroids/PH's and get away with it when tested?

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Old 28-04-2004, 09:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All competitors at a pro level are supposed to be natural from all gaining and cutting aids and if tested posative they will get disqualified and chucked out. But i should imagine alot of them do gear and get away with it by clever use of release times and cycles.

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was talking more about the amateur stage

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Simzy,

im from an olympic weightlifting background (bodybuilder now, much more fun). So i cant speak for bodybuilders but i would imagine the testing procedures to be similar. Weightlifting is full of steroid users, myself included while i competed.

As ian says, its mostly clever use of cycles and release times.

When i first found out how many lifters were taking stuff i couldnt believe it, every single lifter at national squad level and plenty more trying to get there.

Greece/turkey/bulgaria are apparently provided anything they need by their national coach.
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so what do you mean by cycle & release times?

is it just a case of giving themself enough time for it to be out of their system?

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yep, again from a weightlifting point of view, you know your gonna get tested at a national/international so you lift clean. (obviously you've just trained for 3 months smacked of your tits though).
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do they not do polygraph tests for natural shows?

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:shock: do wot?

Maybe bb, never heard of that.

Not weightlifting though, u just pee i blokes pot for him.
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Never heard of polygraphs being used mate, steriod test are expensive enough so i doubt it. Some steriods are even designed with pre-contest use in mind take masteron for example is used widely for contest preparation. I would think they might even test in amateur comps at times but it depends really, i don't compete so dont know a huge amount on the matter.

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Most of the big bodybuilding federations,ie IFBB,NABBA don't test for roids,or they'd have no-one passin' tests,that's why Gary Strydom did that break away federation in the late 80's.they where s'pposed to test all their athletes pre contest and at contests and they folded,it just ain't practical.So called all "natural" comps and federations do testing from what I know but they only test fro steroids,diuratics ,I know of one guy who was a top competetor in 1 such federation in the UK,he took anythin else apart from roids,and the last time I spoke to him he was contemplating takin small dosage winny,primo.There is no drug test for hGH,and nearly all competors right down to local level are on as much as they can afford.Look at the pics in the magazines,look at the lads & girls bellybuttones,gh gives you a very distinctive belly button and nearly all fitness and bidybuilding competetors have em,
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