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asdf · 15-04-2004, 02:06 PM

Dear All,
I am a 26 year old doctor and hence little time to train.
I have trained in the past not using steroids and made some progress. Since starting working I've put on weight 87K (25% body fat).
I'm trying to get back into building and have some queries that I would be grateful if someone could answer.

a) What are prohormones. The way I understand them they get converted to hormones. Do they less side effects than steroids ?

b) Is it worth training first reaching a plateau and then taking them or taking them straight away ?

c) How much protein should I eat

d) How much can I realistically expect to put on training 4 good sessions a week
Regards

IanUK · 15-04-2004, 02:55 PM

Prohormones as you say are converted to usefull hormones in the body and try to mimic the effects of illegal steriods in most cases, e.g increasing nandralone levels.

They have as many sides as steriods if missused, you must take an off cycle estrogen therapy e.g 6oxo is popular and take proper time out for the body to recover

The level of protein for maintenance is at least 1g pf protein per 1lb of body weight and you need to go above that to improve, aom for 200g a day and go from there.

4 trainging sessions a week is an ample number i would space it something like this;

bi's and back
tri's and chest
legs and abbs
shoulders and forearms

Chuck cardiovascular in anywhere along the line.

Anonymous · 15-04-2004, 05:16 PM

welcome to the musclechat board asdf

theres no limit to what youll gain mate,depends on how much effort you put in.

get the diet right,makes the training easy

and the gains will come.

mick11 · 15-04-2004, 10:47 PM

most people would advise dropping the bf to at least 15% before starting doc as you will naturally put on some fat if your using chemical inhancment. i used to train every day during the week for about 2 1/2 years then got enguaged and moved to england let myself go a fair bit and now am working my ass off to drop my BF.
being a doc you'll have a significant advantage in knowledge as you must know there are many drugs ya can use to help with the dropping off BF.
infact if ya got any other idea's other than clenbuterol and T-3 please msg me i'd like to get more weight off before i get hitched ain't paying some photographer 1000 quid to take photo's of me as a fat get

IanUK · 16-04-2004, 07:49 PM

Clen and T3 are dangerous chemicals as the doc will know and not to be messed with in my opinion, its an extreme solution that can be solved simply with some good old fashioned cardio. If you wanna end up with hyperthyroidism or worse then knock yourself out bro.

15-04-2004, 02:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
asdf Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power:	MAG-10 Dear All, I am a 26 year old doctor and hence little time to train. I have trained in the past not using steroids and made some progress. Since starting working I've put on weight 87K (25% body fat). I'm trying to get back into building and have some queries that I would be grateful if someone could answer. a) What are prohormones. The way I understand them they get converted to hormones. Do they less side effects than steroids ? b) Is it worth training first reaching a plateau and then taking them or taking them straight away ? c) How much protein should I eat d) How much can I realistically expect to put on training 4 good sessions a week Regards

15-04-2004, 02:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Prohormones as you say are converted to usefull hormones in the body and try to mimic the effects of illegal steriods in most cases, e.g increasing nandralone levels. They have as many sides as steriods if missused, you must take an off cycle estrogen therapy e.g 6oxo is popular and take proper time out for the body to recover The level of protein for maintenance is at least 1g pf protein per 1lb of body weight and you need to go above that to improve, aom for 200g a day and go from there. 4 trainging sessions a week is an ample number i would space it something like this; bi's and back tri's and chest legs and abbs shoulders and forearms Chuck cardiovascular in anywhere along the line. ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

16-04-2004, 07:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Clen and T3 are dangerous chemicals as the doc will know and not to be messed with in my opinion, its an extreme solution that can be solved simply with some good old fashioned cardio. If you wanna end up with hyperthyroidism or worse then knock yourself out bro. ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

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15-04-2004, 05:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	welcome to the musclechat board asdf theres no limit to what youll gain mate,depends on how much effort you put in. get the diet right,makes the training easy and the gains will come.

15-04-2004, 10:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
mick11 Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: northampton Posts: 7 Rep Power:	most people would advise dropping the bf to at least 15% before starting doc as you will naturally put on some fat if your using chemical inhancment. i used to train every day during the week for about 2 1/2 years then got enguaged and moved to england let myself go a fair bit and now am working my ass off to drop my BF. being a doc you'll have a significant advantage in knowledge as you must know there are many drugs ya can use to help with the dropping off BF. infact if ya got any other idea's other than clenbuterol and T-3 please msg me i'd like to get more weight off before i get hitched ain't paying some photographer 1000 quid to take photo's of me as a fat get