dianabol

sonni · 22-02-2004, 03:08 PM

Just spotted your message in the forum. I am relatively new to weight training. I have been training now for about a year and have purchased some oral dianabol. I am thinking about taking these for 4 weeks ( approx. 3-5 / day) really to get over a stumbling block I have on bench press. 2 weeks before hand I will be taking the following liver protectors:

1. Saw Palmetto
2. Silymarin
3. Chaste tree berry extract

I will continue taking these 2 weeks after the cycle. Any advice or thoughts you can offer. My main concerns are protecting my liver & kidneys etc... And not getting bitch tits.

Sonni Modi

IanUK · 22-02-2004, 06:31 PM

Your best bet for liver protectants are Milk Thistle 1000mg ed and ALA (alpha lipoic acid) at recommended dosage, there the best combo.

As for your Dbol cycle i would not even bother taking any less that 6 a day (30mg) even for a new comer any less than that is pritty pointless and will give no results.

To keep gyno (bitch tits) away you need to have nolvadex (aka tamoxifen) which you can take if signs of gyno appear. Take 100mg (2tabs) a day till it susbsides then a maintenance dose of 50mg a day (1tab) for the rest of the cycle.

Do you have post cycle recovery planned because you will need it, i sujest clomin but you can use nolvadex but its more expensive cause you have to take higher doses.

sonni · 22-02-2004, 07:23 PM

As I will be only taking Dbol for 4 weeks I was informed that its highly unlikely I will need to take either nolvadex or clomid. I have been told that as long as I take

1. Saw Palmetto
2. Silymarin
3. Chaste tree berry extract

2 weeks before and after this should be more than sufficient. What are your thoughts as I know most cycles are about 8 weeks.

sonni

IanUK · 22-02-2004, 09:24 PM

Bad advice im afraid my friend, if your worried about gyno (bitch tits) then you will need nolvadex nearby. its unlikely you will get it from a 4 weeker but if your prone it may ne a problems therefore better to have it there for precautions.

Clomid is a must for post cycle therapy to bring your natural testosterone back, if you dont take these steps you will not keep any gains you have made and it will pointless doing a cycle.

sonni · 22-02-2004, 11:14 PM

When should I take CLOMID and NOLVADEX? How often should I take it etc...?

Category: Body Building
CLOMID
Description: Generic clomiphene 50mg x 12 pills (is that enough)?

Category: Body Building
NOLVADEX
Description: Tamoxifen 20mg x 30 pills (is that enough)?

appreciate any further advice? Are there any side effects by taking the above?

IanUK · 22-02-2004, 11:38 PM

That amount of nolv is fine, you might not need it but have it on hand.

If you need to run the nolv do it like i said above

Run the clomin like this, start the day after your last day of dbol;
Day 1: 6 Tabs (300mg)
Day 2-12: 2 tabs daily (100mg)
Day 13-21: 1 tab daily (50 mg)

So no you will need 42 tabs if my maths is right.

Sides are slight increase in blood pressure and cholesterol but nothing more than the effects of the dbol. The clomin can make people feel a little depressed due to low natural testosterone, this would improve as the course goes on soi best thing to do is take it at night before bed and it wont cause problems.

IanUK · 22-02-2004, 11:39 PM

Are you buying all these things from a website? 95% of the websites actively selling steriods are fake products, you need to order from someone who is a trusted source.

Good luck

dvorin · 26-02-2004, 11:14 PM

err correction to Ianuk's post there, the nolvadex/tamoxifen should be ran at 40mg ED [2tabs] if gyno appears then a maintenance cycle of 20mg everyday until the end of the cycle. The tabs come in 20mg not 50mg.

regards

dvorin

IanUK · 26-02-2004, 11:32 PM

Welcome to the board mate, i stand corrected good find

sonni · 27-02-2004, 07:04 PM

Hi guys,

right now I'm confused because I've got two differring opinions to how to take my oral steriods, clomid and nolvadex?

I'm looking at taking my dianabol for 4 weeks max. Will I need clomid and nolvadex?

how much dianabol do you guys recommend per day per week? Is it best to stagger or take at once during the day?

Should I start Nolvadex in my 3rd week of taking dinabol or wait till the end?

How much per day / per week should i take? Same question applies to Clomid?

Any other thoughts?

Thanks,

Sonni

22-02-2004, 03:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
sonni Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power:	dianabol Just spotted your message in the forum. I am relatively new to weight training. I have been training now for about a year and have purchased some oral dianabol. I am thinking about taking these for 4 weeks ( approx. 3-5 / day) really to get over a stumbling block I have on bench press. 2 weeks before hand I will be taking the following liver protectors: 1. Saw Palmetto 2. Silymarin 3. Chaste tree berry extract I will continue taking these 2 weeks after the cycle. Any advice or thoughts you can offer. My main concerns are protecting my liver & kidneys etc... And not getting bitch tits. Sonni Modi

22-02-2004, 06:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Your best bet for liver protectants are Milk Thistle 1000mg ed and ALA (alpha lipoic acid) at recommended dosage, there the best combo. As for your Dbol cycle i would not even bother taking any less that 6 a day (30mg) even for a new comer any less than that is pritty pointless and will give no results. To keep gyno (bitch tits) away you need to have nolvadex (aka tamoxifen) which you can take if signs of gyno appear. Take 100mg (2tabs) a day till it susbsides then a maintenance dose of 50mg a day (1tab) for the rest of the cycle. Do you have post cycle recovery planned because you will need it, i sujest clomin but you can use nolvadex but its more expensive cause you have to take higher doses. ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

22-02-2004, 09:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Bad advice im afraid my friend, if your worried about gyno (bitch tits) then you will need nolvadex nearby. its unlikely you will get it from a 4 weeker but if your prone it may ne a problems therefore better to have it there for precautions. Clomid is a must for post cycle therapy to bring your natural testosterone back, if you dont take these steps you will not keep any gains you have made and it will pointless doing a cycle. ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

22-02-2004, 11:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	That amount of nolv is fine, you might not need it but have it on hand. If you need to run the nolv do it like i said above Run the clomin like this, start the day after your last day of dbol; Day 1: 6 Tabs (300mg) Day 2-12: 2 tabs daily (100mg) Day 13-21: 1 tab daily (50 mg) So no you will need 42 tabs if my maths is right. Sides are slight increase in blood pressure and cholesterol but nothing more than the effects of the dbol. The clomin can make people feel a little depressed due to low natural testosterone, this would improve as the course goes on soi best thing to do is take it at night before bed and it wont cause problems. ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

22-02-2004, 11:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Are you buying all these things from a website? 95% of the websites actively selling steriods are fake products, you need to order from someone who is a trusted source. Good luck ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

22-02-2004, 07:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
sonni Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power:	As I will be only taking Dbol for 4 weeks I was informed that its highly unlikely I will need to take either nolvadex or clomid. I have been told that as long as I take 1. Saw Palmetto 2. Silymarin 3. Chaste tree berry extract 2 weeks before and after this should be more than sufficient. What are your thoughts as I know most cycles are about 8 weeks. sonni

22-02-2004, 11:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
sonni Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power:	When should I take CLOMID and NOLVADEX? How often should I take it etc...? Category: Body Building CLOMID Description: Generic clomiphene 50mg x 12 pills (is that enough)? Category: Body Building NOLVADEX Description: Tamoxifen 20mg x 30 pills (is that enough)? appreciate any further advice? Are there any side effects by taking the above?

26-02-2004, 11:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
dvorin Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 26 Rep Power:	err correction to Ianuk's post there, the nolvadex/tamoxifen should be ran at 40mg ED [2tabs] if gyno appears then a maintenance cycle of 20mg everyday until the end of the cycle. The tabs come in 20mg not 50mg. regards dvorin

26-02-2004, 11:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Welcome to the board mate, i stand corrected good find ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

27-02-2004, 07:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
sonni Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power:	Clomid and Nolvadex Hi guys, right now I'm confused because I've got two differring opinions to how to take my oral steriods, clomid and nolvadex? I'm looking at taking my dianabol for 4 weeks max. Will I need clomid and nolvadex? how much dianabol do you guys recommend per day per week? Is it best to stagger or take at once during the day? Should I start Nolvadex in my 3rd week of taking dinabol or wait till the end? How much per day / per week should i take? Same question applies to Clomid? Any other thoughts? Thanks, Sonni

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