hi all

Builder Bal · 18-01-2006, 12:39 AM

hi,

Well after about 5 yrs of 'i'll start tomorrows' and 28 creeping up on me faster and faster i thought it was about time to get my arse into gear and got working on my body.

i'm 5'10" and not sure how much i way (11st ish) but i've got a big ribcage and quite thin arms and legs which makes me look abit abnormal (i think). its going to mainly be my arms i want to work on but not forgetting the rest of my body aswell.

after doing my research i'm seriously considering steroids. can anyone give me any pointers.

thanks

devilsquest · 18-01-2006, 04:02 AM

NO WAY,well i wished id seen this post before the other one!!!!!so u really have not been training at all yet want to do a course??m8 most will say u need a few years trainin behind you before you consider a cycle!!!if you use roids now you will be wastein your money,time and riskin your health!!!
if you think roids are a magic answer you are mistakern,and i doubt you would be able to keep any gains after you'd done a cycle any way due to a lack of noledge of your body in the gym and as your body is in no way ready to do a cycle.

Darren · 18-01-2006, 03:46 PM

Hi & welcome

Give it a couple of years at least before going on the juice mate...try & build up as much strenth naturally 1st

Anonymous · 18-01-2006, 09:17 PM

welcome bro

funbos · 18-01-2006, 10:51 PM

hey m8

Nick500 · 19-01-2006, 12:48 AM

welcome

Builder Bal · 19-01-2006, 08:08 AM

thanks fellas

totti · 19-01-2006, 08:09 PM

Hi m8 :mrgreen:

Young Gun · 19-01-2006, 09:07 PM

Welcome mate. We already have too many quick and easy's on this site don't be another. Steroids are effective when done safely but part of this means being armed with the proper knowledge and this includes many aspects. One of the most important with first time cyclers is the ability to cope with strength decrease and muscle loss during pct and the ability to train regularly juice free once more.

Anyone remember Divie Mr Skinny or any of the other people recently who had not been able to cope training off gear and have given up.

GTForce an awesome member of this site who hasn't been around for a long time put it like this

One factor that is overlooked, and is one of the largest concerns, is psychological addiction. Guys who take shortcuts are often lured into this predicament.

I believe that only "true" bodybuilders and weightlifters have earned the right to experiment with steroids. What classifies one as a "true" bodybuilder? See the list below.

- Lifting AT LEAST 5 years.
- can bench press bodyweight AT LEAST 10 times.
- can perform AT LEAST 10 dead-hang chin-ups.
- can squat bodyweight for AT LEAST 20 deep reps.
- can deadlift AT LEAST twice your bodyweight.
- performs all the above exercises with PERFECT form.
- has increased strength every year during those first 5 years of training.
- eats AT LEAST 5 meals per day.
- can make a fairly accurate guess of carb content, protein conten, and fat content of any meal simply by lookinjg at it.
- consumes 1 gram of protein for every pound of bodyweight per day.

Now, anyone who is a "true bodybuilder/weightlifter" and wants to try gear should meet the following criteria:

- has tried supplements like creatine, NO2, glutamine, protein powder, and given them all a fair go.
- has spent AT LEAST a year researching roids.
- can effectively distinguish between media-generated bullshit and actual facts re:steroid use.
- has talked first-hand with someone who has used them extensively.
- has had a recent medical check-up and been given a clean bill of health.
- knows all about PCT.
- knows the following terms; cc. ml, amp, gauge, aspirate, sterile, half-life, HPTA, LH, and ancillaries.

Basically, if you do not qualify, you have no reason doing gear. Sure, it's your choice, but the less you know the greater the risk. Steroids themselves are not the problem; the skinny-ass pansies who are not willing to do the work and are looking for a shortcut that are the problem.
Bodybuilding is pretty simple : train, eat, rest, repeat for many years. If you cannot commit to that equation DO NOT use steroids. That is where psychological addiction comes in. Guys, who do not even know how to train naturally, start using gear WAY too early. They get some results, but due to their ignorance, lose all their gains afterwards and fall into a deep depression. This leads them to use gear again and again.
I know a guy who doesn't even train when he is clean. Complete loser in my opinion. He gets real big on gear - and thinks everyone is impressed - but the reality is that he is seen as a lazy fool. Natural bodybuilding requires patience and guts. Gear-assisted bodybuilding requires education, maturity, planning, and commitment.

True bodybuilders will easily be able to spot the difference between an athlete who has trained for years and is using gear to enhance his gains and the lazy wanker who only makes gains through gear. Those morons are the guys who give bodybuilding a bad name.

Rant over

Steroids are not inherently dangerous ; steroids in the hands of gutless, impatient, immature bodybuilder-wannabes can be very dangerous.

GTForce

With which I couldnt agree more. There are quite a few people I fear are heading this way at the moment to which I respectfully bite my tounge.

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Builder Bal Under Construction Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herts, UK Posts: 37 Rep Power:	hi all hi, Well after about 5 yrs of 'i'll start tomorrows' and 28 creeping up on me faster and faster i thought it was about time to get my arse into gear and got working on my body. i'm 5'10" and not sure how much i way (11st ish) but i've got a big ribcage and quite thin arms and legs which makes me look abit abnormal (i think). its going to mainly be my arms i want to work on but not forgetting the rest of my body aswell. after doing my research i'm seriously considering steroids. can anyone give me any pointers. thanks

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Darren Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Crosby, Liverpool Posts: 225 Rep Power:	Hi & welcome Give it a couple of years at least before going on the juice mate...try & build up as much strenth naturally 1st

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Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Welcome mate. We already have too many quick and easy's on this site don't be another. Steroids are effective when done safely but part of this means being armed with the proper knowledge and this includes many aspects. One of the most important with first time cyclers is the ability to cope with strength decrease and muscle loss during pct and the ability to train regularly juice free once more. Anyone remember Divie Mr Skinny or any of the other people recently who had not been able to cope training off gear and have given up. GTForce an awesome member of this site who hasn't been around for a long time put it like this One factor that is overlooked, and is one of the largest concerns, is psychological addiction. Guys who take shortcuts are often lured into this predicament. I believe that only "true" bodybuilders and weightlifters have earned the right to experiment with steroids. What classifies one as a "true" bodybuilder? See the list below. - Lifting AT LEAST 5 years. - can bench press bodyweight AT LEAST 10 times. - can perform AT LEAST 10 dead-hang chin-ups. - can squat bodyweight for AT LEAST 20 deep reps. - can deadlift AT LEAST twice your bodyweight. - performs all the above exercises with PERFECT form. - has increased strength every year during those first 5 years of training. - eats AT LEAST 5 meals per day. - can make a fairly accurate guess of carb content, protein conten, and fat content of any meal simply by lookinjg at it. - consumes 1 gram of protein for every pound of bodyweight per day. Now, anyone who is a "true bodybuilder/weightlifter" and wants to try gear should meet the following criteria: - has tried supplements like creatine, NO2, glutamine, protein powder, and given them all a fair go. - has spent AT LEAST a year researching roids. - can effectively distinguish between media-generated bullshit and actual facts re:steroid use. - has talked first-hand with someone who has used them extensively. - has had a recent medical check-up and been given a clean bill of health. - knows all about PCT. - knows the following terms; cc. ml, amp, gauge, aspirate, sterile, half-life, HPTA, LH, and ancillaries. Basically, if you do not qualify, you have no reason doing gear. Sure, it's your choice, but the less you know the greater the risk. Steroids themselves are not the problem; the skinny-ass pansies who are not willing to do the work and are looking for a shortcut that are the problem. Bodybuilding is pretty simple : train, eat, rest, repeat for many years. If you cannot commit to that equation DO NOT use steroids. That is where psychological addiction comes in. Guys, who do not even know how to train naturally, start using gear WAY too early. They get some results, but due to their ignorance, lose all their gains afterwards and fall into a deep depression. This leads them to use gear again and again. I know a guy who doesn't even train when he is clean. Complete loser in my opinion. He gets real big on gear - and thinks everyone is impressed - but the reality is that he is seen as a lazy fool. Natural bodybuilding requires patience and guts. Gear-assisted bodybuilding requires education, maturity, planning, and commitment. True bodybuilders will easily be able to spot the difference between an athlete who has trained for years and is using gear to enhance his gains and the lazy wanker who only makes gains through gear. Those morons are the guys who give bodybuilding a bad name. Rant over Steroids are not inherently dangerous ; steroids in the hands of gutless, impatient, immature bodybuilder-wannabes can be very dangerous. GTForce With which I couldnt agree more. There are quite a few people I fear are heading this way at the moment to which I respectfully bite my tounge.