new and in need of advice

neilb · 01-07-2005, 06:38 PM

hiya

i have just purchased a set of weights and i am totally brand new to all this. I want to start bodybuilding and i am very keen.

Im 18 quite slim built

im looking for advice on diet how to build my muscle using a schedule any tips all u pros have. like i say im total novice so any info would be grateful

divie · 01-07-2005, 07:45 PM

Have a read around the BB training and diet forums.
To start of mate try using gary's beginner routine its on the BB training forum and its explained in depth, you cant go wrong with it.
Id advise against a 5 day split where you only train each muscle group once a week, as for the first months of BB your muscles need to be worked a little more frequently to gain but in turn less intensily, garys routine is ideal for this and will give you balanced gains.
With regards to your diet its plenty of protien, complex carbs and good fats ie fish oils , nuts etc.If you take a look around the forum and read previous posts you will find loads of helpful info in sorting out your diet.
all the best m8

MrSkinny · 01-07-2005, 10:34 PM

Hi neilb and welcome

I'd also say don't get carried away with a lot of the stuff you see here and on other forums/magazines etc, like split routines/supersetting/pro hormones/shock routines etc. These are for people who have been training for a long time and have reached a plateau. Although its tempting it will be counter productive for you neilb.

Also, imho avoid all the supplements you see in health shops with the possible exception of a whey protein/creatine but see how you go first. In my view the other products are falsey marketed and always show some massive dude who certainly didn't get a physique by just taking the supplement they are advertising. 90% are a waste of money and tyou can get most for basic food sources.

For beginners it seems really confusing but its actually quite simple, a good training routine (no more than 3 times a week) + LOADS of basic foods + rest (don't under estimate the last 2)

Good luck neilb and any questions, no matter how dumb

just post.

Cheers

Mr S
PS I assuming you wanna put on overall bulk initially, ie beef yourself up rather than endurance/ pure strength etc

neilb · 01-07-2005, 10:51 PM

cheers for the replies i have got some dumb posts

i have read through the routine but is there any pics anyway that show you how to do these.

I have been reading posts about diets is there any particular foods you can suggest.

Yes I m trying to beef myself up im getting married in a years time and want to hit the beach on my honeymoon looking good

thanks again for your reply

MrSkinny · 01-07-2005, 11:14 PM

Heres one I found neilb
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm

It demonstrates the techniques and also names all the muscle groups (so you will know what the hell people are on about when the mention delts /traps/quads/hams etc

)

For foods you can't knock the basics, i.e chicken (no skin) tuna, pasta milk, peanut butter, eggs, nuts, fish. If you find in hard eating just drink it,
See one of my posts for a sample shake (from about 1 weeks ago), it costs of milk powder/protein/banana/peanut butter. With the tuna, mix it with a salad There are better ones I'm sure but I like it cos its easy and I HATE milk lol, mind you some people reckon its taste like sh#t

. Let me know if you can't find it

if you interested in how much calories/carbs/protein/fat are in foods see
www.sainsburystoyou.com
Eat often and drink lots of water. It seems hard at the start but it gets to be just habit.

Gary has posted another sample shake, have a look at that too

Cheers
Mr S
Congradulations of your engagement mate

neilb · 02-07-2005, 12:08 AM

cheers mr s that website is just what i need i will be doing it all from home and i aint got the room for a multi gy but loads of exercises in there for me. Im going to get crackng on monday cant wait.

How long do you think i should spend on each session

zx9rjas. · 02-07-2005, 01:41 AM

No more than 45 mins mate but maybe even less. Take everything very easy for a while as you do not want an injury and let your body get used to the range of movements

J

garrilla · 02-07-2005, 11:07 AM

this sums up why this site is so good, good sound advice and friendly guys.

bump to everyone

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neilb Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mids Posts: 3 Rep Power:	new and in need of advice hiya i have just purchased a set of weights and i am totally brand new to all this. I want to start bodybuilding and i am very keen. Im 18 quite slim built im looking for advice on diet how to build my muscle using a schedule any tips all u pros have. like i say im total novice so any info would be grateful

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zx9rjas. Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power:	No more than 45 mins mate but maybe even less. Take everything very easy for a while as you do not want an injury and let your body get used to the range of movements J ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above.

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01-07-2005, 07:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
divie Making Progress Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: somerset Posts: 436 Rep Power:	Have a read around the BB training and diet forums. To start of mate try using gary's beginner routine its on the BB training forum and its explained in depth, you cant go wrong with it. Id advise against a 5 day split where you only train each muscle group once a week, as for the first months of BB your muscles need to be worked a little more frequently to gain but in turn less intensily, garys routine is ideal for this and will give you balanced gains. With regards to your diet its plenty of protien, complex carbs and good fats ie fish oils , nuts etc.If you take a look around the forum and read previous posts you will find loads of helpful info in sorting out your diet. all the best m8

01-07-2005, 10:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	Hi neilb and welcome I'd also say don't get carried away with a lot of the stuff you see here and on other forums/magazines etc, like split routines/supersetting/pro hormones/shock routines etc. These are for people who have been training for a long time and have reached a plateau. Although its tempting it will be counter productive for you neilb. Also, imho avoid all the supplements you see in health shops with the possible exception of a whey protein/creatine but see how you go first. In my view the other products are falsey marketed and always show some massive dude who certainly didn't get a physique by just taking the supplement they are advertising. 90% are a waste of money and tyou can get most for basic food sources. For beginners it seems really confusing but its actually quite simple, a good training routine (no more than 3 times a week) + LOADS of basic foods + rest (don't under estimate the last 2) Good luck neilb and any questions, no matter how dumb just post. Cheers Mr S PS I assuming you wanna put on overall bulk initially, ie beef yourself up rather than endurance/ pure strength etc

01-07-2005, 10:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
neilb Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mids Posts: 3 Rep Power:	cheers for the replies i have got some dumb posts i have read through the routine but is there any pics anyway that show you how to do these. I have been reading posts about diets is there any particular foods you can suggest. Yes I m trying to beef myself up im getting married in a years time and want to hit the beach on my honeymoon looking good thanks again for your reply

01-07-2005, 11:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
MrSkinny Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 255 Rep Power:	Heres one I found neilb http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm It demonstrates the techniques and also names all the muscle groups (so you will know what the hell people are on about when the mention delts /traps/quads/hams etc ) For foods you can't knock the basics, i.e chicken (no skin) tuna, pasta milk, peanut butter, eggs, nuts, fish. If you find in hard eating just drink it, See one of my posts for a sample shake (from about 1 weeks ago), it costs of milk powder/protein/banana/peanut butter. With the tuna, mix it with a salad There are better ones I'm sure but I like it cos its easy and I HATE milk lol, mind you some people reckon its taste like sh#t . Let me know if you can't find it if you interested in how much calories/carbs/protein/fat are in foods see www.sainsburystoyou.com Eat often and drink lots of water. It seems hard at the start but it gets to be just habit. Gary has posted another sample shake, have a look at that too Cheers Mr S Congradulations of your engagement mate

02-07-2005, 12:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
neilb Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mids Posts: 3 Rep Power:	cheers mr s that website is just what i need i will be doing it all from home and i aint got the room for a multi gy but loads of exercises in there for me. Im going to get crackng on monday cant wait. How long do you think i should spend on each session

02-07-2005, 11:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
garrilla Banned Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 431 Rep Power:	this sums up why this site is so good, good sound advice and friendly guys. bump to everyone