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Old 31-12-2004, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone,as many may know ive been wieght lifting for a couple of months,ive swapped and changed my trainining circuits advised by many on the forum.I also have started to eat correctly every day and seem to have a routine going with the diet and wieght lifting.
I would appriciate an opinion on my diet and training.

9:00,75g porridge,1 small chicken breast,250ml orange juice
12:00,4 turkey sandwiches,1 pack crisps,2 tangerines
15;00,1 chicken breast,2 tangerines
1730,2 pork chops,potatoes,veg(varies but generaly meat and veg)
TRAIN FOR 30 - 40 MINs
1900,75g pasta,130g tuna,grated cheese, 250ml milk
2200:chicken breast,50g porridge

WIEGHT TRAINING PROGRAM
WENESDAY and SATERDAY
behind neck press, flies, bent fowrard lateral raises, tri extensions, lateral raises.

TUE and FRI
squats, concentrated curls, single arm rows, barbell curls, sit ups.

I know its probably a bit wierd the way i have decided to split the routine up, but the reason i do it like this is because i hate the 3 day split, i get to tired and have a lack of motivation to perform the exercises as the 3 day sessions last to long.I also only train at home with a bench which has no rack and a barbell and dumbells.This is the reason i do the exercises above ie flies instead of bench press coz i have no rack or spotter ,and refuse to go to a gym until later down the line when im a bit bigger as im not prepared to train in front of people yet, also its more convineant at home.
I hope i get some feed back with regards to my diet and training,im very keen and have started to enjoy training,my appetite has also increased a lot.I could manage to eat a lot more but i have limited amount of money to spend as me and my missus are both only 21 and shes at university training to be a nurse which means she only gets a small amount of money and im only a landscape gardener with a 2 year old daughter.Dont get me wrong were not struggling but im not prepared to spend more than 10-15 pound on top of my shopping budget a week ,i usually spend 65-75 a week on food but lately its been nearly 100 a week.My main extras are 2 bags of chicken breasts 6 cans of tuna.Ive gone on a bit here and i apolagise , but any advice or comments , good or bad would be apriciated.One last thing im 6ft2 11 stone trying to get bigger, i was originally 10 and half stone but i put on half a stone in a couple of weeks, but know the wieght gain has stopped completely in the last 4-5 weeks but i dont know why as if anything im eating more know(strange).
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Old 01-01-2005, 10:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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hello shane, the diet does look good,and it shows you have put alot of thought into it which is good as this is most important.

the reason you are not gaining anymore weight?,

this has one reason, you need to consume more calories,

try upping your daily calories about 1000,this should result in a 2lb weight gain each week. spli the calories between protein carbs and fat.

when you reach a plateu again, you will need to re evaluate your diet and up the calories again. without a doubt this will work, i used to be 11 stone at 20, i am now 24 and 17 stone. i,m not super ripped but i am big.

"and refuse to go to a gym until later down the line when im a bit bigger"

do not worry about this, your there to get bigger, people will soon start given you compliments when they see you growing.

alot of guys that go the gym,no nothing about nutrition, this is where you will have the advantage,keep browsing the posts on this board,all the info you need is here
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Old 01-01-2005, 10:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree, I believe I have an advantage over others in my gym, Not through genetics as they believe but through information and research, It looks like you have put alot of effort into your planning and diet. Great.

As Steve said, leave your ego at the door and get to a gym. Forget everyone else, everyone starts somewhere and most people will encourage you.

Go for it

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Hi,
Here is my chance to throw in my 2 cents of info. I dont know how long u have been training, but when u first start u will notice quick improvements simple fdue to getting use to the techniques and using ure strength to ure full. But what u got to remember is that this a slow process. When u look back at old photo/think back to what u use to lift u will be so impressed by ure gains. Just train hard and dont loose heart and u will be fine...

I do like most of the peoiple on the forum suggest u join a gym. Seriosuly dont worry about what others think. In fact when training at the gym u will probably be able to ask som1 to spot u so u can go to ure max, this will help u meet new ppl and they in turn will (wihtout knowing) monitor ure progress. If ure getting stroinger and the same person is spotting u they will mention and it and it will give u that moral boost we all need some times

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Shop at asda if you dont already mate, its really cheap. and there own stuff most of the time tastes as good as "named brand" foods.
Oh turkey breasts are cheaper and by what people have told me on here better for you than chicken breasts, with regards to fat content that is.
I have to budget my food too, seems to make it more fun rooting out the bargains, good luck.

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makro does chicken fillets i.e. boneless skinless frozen in massive 5kg bags for well cheap! they may do turkey 2...never tried!
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no offence but to me buying stuff like chicken really cheap in a 5kg bag may seem great and cheap but its gunna be all the reject meat off the chicken pluss not ot mention how nowadays cheap meat is usally pumped full of anti-biotics that they give them for the animals to grow

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Old 03-01-2005, 01:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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We would all like to buy the best foods mate but some of us cant afford it.Do you think i buy the chicken shit coz i like the taste.Anyway i buy a couple of 1.4kg bags a week that works out at about 3-4 chicken breasts a day in inbetween meals.It is probably full of water, but its not shit, its all chicken breasts.It costs just under 5 a bag in asda.Im probably going to buy turkey next week as it has less fat acording to the forum,also i prefer it.Your probably think to yourself well if he isnt prepared to buy the best he wont be the best,but my dad is big as **** and in his younger days he was bare knuckle gypsie champion until he gave it up.He didnt care what he ate he just naturally had a big appetite, fry ups and fatty shit was all he loved.He did wieght train but only for about 15 mins a night every night with very limited exercises.He did everything wrong when i think about it, but hes 44 know and has a brilliant body,hes never done a sit up in his life,he hasnt got a six pack obviously but his stomache is flat,he menioned it to me the oher day when i told him what i was doing.Im still going to train and eat well coz it is already giving me more definition, but i cant bielieve this saying of you can get as big as you want with dedication, i do think the genes has a part to play,unfortuantly i have my mothers skinny body.My goal is to go from 11 stone to 12 and a half with defined muscle in a year i think that is achievable but i have no aims after that.But i think there are limits on how dedication can turn in to obsession and spending stupidly is someting im never going to do.The shit chicken is working for me and thats all its gonna be,i dont eat as much tuna any more coz of the health risks on mecury i have herd on tis site,so i tried chicken as a supplement and know aparently thats shit.What do you suggest 4 stakes a day inbetween meals.Im thankful for the info people on the forum have given me good or bad but JACKAMO is just slagging me with no advice or alternative given.YOU SNOOZE YOU LOOZE he says :mrgreen: ,YOU OUGHT TO TRY WAKING UP MY BOY :!:
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i dont think he was slagging you mate think he was just pointing out his opinion as he sees it, but more interstingly you say your dad was a bare knuckle boxing champ? i have loads of books etc im facinated by the sport, do you do it od not?

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Stick with the chicken divie, IMO real food is better than shakes anyday!

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