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Old 12-03-2008, 09:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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where are your kids late at night?? thats what every parent should ask themselves.

violence on the streets with our teenagers is getting so out of control i feel sick every time i watch the news...here is the latest victim...

a girl trying to defend her boyfriend in a park....shocking story

Drunken boy, 15, kicked woman to death in park 'because she was a goth' | the Daily Mail

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Old 13-03-2008, 08:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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What the hell is wrong with these deviant little bast*rds!!
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Old 13-03-2008, 08:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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what can you say to that really.... worst thing is they'll get locked up and probably come out worse than when they went in!!
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Old 13-03-2008, 08:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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well, they may get locked up, but it will probably be in a nice sheltered little enviroment with playstations and sky tv, they'll serve some minimal sentance that insults the victims, come out and recieve no end of help, 'resocialising' themselves!! Makes me think about the pair of swines that did for the poor Bulger lad, where the hell are they now, probably living a much cushier life than most of us!
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My lads only 10 and safely tucked up in bed by 8pm.Im not looking farward to him reaching his teens and asking to go down town with his mates,these will be stressful times for me as they are for all parents.They are so headstrong and aggressive these days and i can see why some weaker willed parents just kick them out of the house to get some peace.But this is where we have failed.That strict dominance of parental authority that was so strong years ago has been lost because of this stance and our kids are spending the transitional period from child to adult outside,late at night in a world of alcohol,drugs and gang violence.There is a teen stabbing here every weekend.Thats the main reason i dont want my son down town late at night.And by fcuking God he wont be.He can kick and scream all he likes but im bigger.I work out.What happened to that girl was sick.Just like the 3 teenage lads who kicked to death that father not long back.Im not making exuses for these actions or individuals.But our teens.Our children.Are so angry,frustrated and dissallutioned in this country that they are murdering eachother and other people for kicks!Why?Because there's fcuk all for them to do,at an age where they need us so much!£700m plus,wasted on a Millennium dome could of built youth centres in every major town in Britain ffs!

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i think alot of it has to do with what children are exposed to and what they feel is acceptable....

look at the films that have been released over the last 10-15 years... in the past violence was in films yes.. but it was not as realistic as it has been recently.. the settings were different and the environments that violence happened in was unbelieveable...

over the last 10 years or so the settings and realism in films has increased so that violence looks and feels real in films, its much more graphic and the situations its displayed in are much more real world situations...

guns were in films long before this... so now we have had gun crime/culture among youths for quite a few years... now we see this viloence... with recent films like hostel etc. what is going to be coming next?

i used to think this being influenced so much by what you watch is all a load of bollocks.. until a woman i worked with who was studying psychology said well if you can watch a film that makes you feel good why cant you watch one that makes you feel bad? - u just dont realise you feel bad!

does anyone remember watching bruce lee films when they were younger? whats the first thing you did when it ended? go in the kitchen and try to roundhouse kick your mate in the head... lol... i think the same happens with the extreme violence these days we just maybe dont realise it!

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i think alot of it has to do with what children are exposed to and what they feel is acceptable....

look at the films that have been released over the last 10-15 years... in the past violence was in films yes.. but it was not as realistic as it has been recently.. the settings were different and the environments that violence happened in was unbelieveable...

over the last 10 years or so the settings and realism in films has increased so that violence looks and feels real in films, its much more graphic and the situations its displayed in are much more real world situations...

guns were in films long before this... so now we have had gun crime/culture among youths for quite a few years... now we see this viloence... with recent films like hostel etc. what is going to be coming next?

i used to think this being influenced so much by what you watch is all a load of bollocks.. until a woman i worked with who was studying psychology said well if you can watch a film that makes you feel good why cant you watch one that makes you feel bad? - u just dont realise you feel bad!

does anyone remember watching bruce lee films when they were younger? whats the first thing you did when it ended? go in the kitchen and try to roundhouse kick your mate in the head... lol... i think the same happens with the extreme violence these days we just maybe dont realise it!
I can see where you're coming from and the making you feel good thing is a good point but surely it comes down to the person and their ability to know the difference between right and wrong...

maybe the media does play a part but IMO only a small one - the owness (sp) for this lands squarely on the parents and the childs upbringing.. a kid learns whats acceptable and what isnt from their parents and if that doesnt happen with even the smallest of things then once they are out there its bound to escalate..

and yes, i probably did try to roundhouse kick my mate in the head lol but i definitely didnt watch nightmare on elm street and go fasten blades to my fingers!
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I used to fly all around the garden pretending I was Micheal Dudikoff from American Ninja!! I think u have a valid points and I agree that the bulk of the responsibility lies with the parent, the media should show some more responsibility but I would def not be in favour of a kind of censorship. I was discussing wiht my fam the other day how society is going to the dogs, I know every generation feels that the younger is worse than theres but still; a friend of mine was tellin us a story about when he was 18, he met a girl who was seventeen and they began a relationship, they got onto the topic of sexual partners and this 17 yr old informed him that she'd lost count after 100! I was horrified, I'm no prude but come on! It got me thinking about the TV people watch, I caught an episode of skins which is a favorite of the kids at the school I've been workin at and I thought it was pretty disgusting. The fact is the next generation are exposed to irresponsible broadcasting that glamourises sex, drugs and violence, this juxtaposed with violent music, video games etc numbs childrens perception. I'm not saying these show's, games, songs shouldnt be out there but parents should be more pro active in ensuring their kids aren't exposed to them. Teachers should def have more power to discipline the kids aswell, alot of the time I have threatened to call a kids folks if he/she is out of line but when I get a face to face with the mum, a lot of the time, she looks high as hell and isn't really listening anyway. So many kids have such bad home lives that they emerse themselves in 'gang' culture as they feel they have nothing else. The whole country needs a bloody good shake up, unfortunately I don't know the answers, but as Gazz said the government should fund youth project as opposed to pointless domes! A shake up of the education system, even some form of national service be that for everyone or just for lads that are headed a bit wayward. Oh hell, I don't know, I'm not an MP but something needs to be done to reassure us all. Halleluja!!!!
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I can't be bothered to read that back to make sure it makes sense so I won't blame anyone for not reading it lol.
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Me being not so old, im turning 20!

Ill tell you living in south east london (once you been around here you dont want to come back) all this violent culture just comes from other people. One moron bullies another and the cycle continues until we have a bunch of uncontrollable idiots.

Its to do with a fashion trend more so then anything and the norm that people just expect.

Fortunately I workout thus looking bigger thus I dont get pestered.

However, a month ago 2 scum bags came out of their tinted bmw 4x4 and was starting trouble and I just said you what mate as they mumbled something to me (they were shocked to get a response), until one of them was pretty smart and just told his mate look he's looks like he can handle himself lets roll.

People gotta stick up for themselves (even if you get your ass kicked), as rudes, hoodrats, chavs (all the diff types of scum we have) know who they can and cant bully. They do it as they know they can get away with it, its a case of letting people know that they cant get away with it. Solution to this? Wish I knew!
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