chest pains!

chalk · 17-02-2006, 06:09 PM

When sneezing we exert pressure on our chest area. There are many ligaments, tendons, muscles which can get torn, pulled etc. From what I've heard it's quite easy to damage tendons and ligaments when taking steroid because our tendons/ligaments take longer to strengthen.

I think that the fact that you notice it when sneezing is a real clue. The tightnes is probably due to some trauma created when lifting a weight too heavy or not warming up properly on a chest or back workout.

Take it a bit easier for a couple of weeks, and if it's still bothering you or it gets worse or you start feeling dizzy, then go to the doctor. But I do think it's easy to get overly worried about these things.
I had the same sympoms in my back just below the shoulder blade. I was convinced it was something serious. Ended up being a pulled ligament, or something along those lines. Still have to be careful now after ten years!

PS I'm not a doctor.

sitries · 17-02-2006, 08:37 PM

cheers for the advice guys. i dont think i will bother going to the doctor because it isnt actually causing me any discomfort tbh. it was just more of a worry that i had because iv never felt this slight pressure on my chest before. i think you are probably right chalk -its probably just a slight deep tissue strain. as a precaution i think i will just use my next door neighbours machine and get my blood pressure checked to be on the safe side.

sitries · 21-02-2006, 07:57 PM

i was chatting to a guy in the gym and we got to talking about injection sites etc. i told him my methods of injection and he asked me if i aspirate. i dont(the guy that showed me how to inject failed to mention it)! then he explained why i should - he said that if you dont aspirate then you could potentially be injecting into the bloodstream, meaning that all the gear flows to your heart leading to heart growth and consequently heart problems! obviously now im worried! are the chest pains iv been having linked to this in any way! i usually inject into my glutes or delts and on a couple of occasions a little blood drips straight out. does this mean that a couple of my shots may have gone straight into my bloodstream and consequently have lead to the tightening feeling in my chest?

it neds to be pointed out that this guy in the gym did spout quiet a lot of bolox about gear, and although i reaslise that i should have been pulling bac on the plunger before to check for blood, maybe this guy isoverreacting a bit about the heart etc??

ps its also worh pointing out that i checked my blood pressure and it was low.

helpo much appreciated. it goes without saying that i will be aspirating on my future shots.

Andy1981iron · 21-02-2006, 08:55 PM

That sounds like the biggest load of bollocks EVER!

sitries · 21-02-2006, 09:01 PM

he said that by injecting into the blood stream (which im not even sure if i have been doing) this leads to enlargement of the heart. is this not the case? andy - do you pull back on the syringe before injecting??

is there any way of knowing if i have accidently injected into the blood stream?

this guy was talking a fair bit of bolox -for example his cycle was 750mg sustanon 250 and 1000mg deca every 5 days - all together!! which is a shit cycle IMO.

Andy1981iron · 21-02-2006, 09:03 PM

I don't pull back on the syringe before injecting, I would say most don't bother.

He's an idiot.

Nick500 · 21-02-2006, 09:03 PM

wow

you really should be aspirating..... hes not just 'talking bollocks' but hes definitely dramatising it.

potentially if you inject into the bloodstream directly you could die, although this would mainly be in one of the main vessels i think, not a random little capillary you might hit in the glute

Andy1981iron · 21-02-2006, 09:09 PM

Ok.

In theory you should aspirate, but I would say in reality 70% of people don't bother and have no problems.

This enlargement of the heart story is definately rubbish though.

devilsquest · 21-02-2006, 09:11 PM

next time u at the hospital u check out how the do it cos they sure dont aspirate!!!!i know the wife works there

fred · 21-02-2006, 09:14 PM

If you inject into a vein you will know about it in a couple of seconds not after weeks of injecting. The heart pumps blood throughout your entire body several times a minute. When you inject into a vein the oily substance goes straight into your blood stream, and into your heart, brain and other organs within seconds, it is said that this can possibly cause a stroke or even death. There are not many recorded cases of this, and the chance of actually hitting and injecting into a vein is extremely rare especially if you inject into large muscles.

There have been cases, that I read about, where people have injected air into their veins with no adverse side effects. The body has a high level of tolerance, and should be able to filter out the oily substance. However with the oil being denser than blood, it may cause a blockage or slowing of the blood flow which in turn could cause complications.

There is not much research on this subject, although you will probably find something on the NET. But chances are if you are still walking around as normal shortly after giving yourself an injection you're OK. To be safe always keep everything clean, and always aspirate!

21-02-2006, 09:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	wow you really should be aspirating..... hes not just 'talking bollocks' but hes definitely dramatising it. potentially if you inject into the bloodstream directly you could die, although this would mainly be in one of the main vessels i think, not a random little capillary you might hit in the glute ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

21-02-2006, 09:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
devilsquest Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,164 Rep Power:	next time u at the hospital u check out how the do it cos they sure dont aspirate!!!!i know the wife works there ______________________ i cant link to my site it seems the uk sites are not happy with it so check my profile or pm me

21-02-2006, 09:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
fred Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 37 Rep Power:	Don't believe everything your hear If you inject into a vein you will know about it in a couple of seconds not after weeks of injecting. The heart pumps blood throughout your entire body several times a minute. When you inject into a vein the oily substance goes straight into your blood stream, and into your heart, brain and other organs within seconds, it is said that this can possibly cause a stroke or even death. There are not many recorded cases of this, and the chance of actually hitting and injecting into a vein is extremely rare especially if you inject into large muscles. There have been cases, that I read about, where people have injected air into their veins with no adverse side effects. The body has a high level of tolerance, and should be able to filter out the oily substance. However with the oil being denser than blood, it may cause a blockage or slowing of the blood flow which in turn could cause complications. There is not much research on this subject, although you will probably find something on the NET. But chances are if you are still walking around as normal shortly after giving yourself an injection you're OK. To be safe always keep everything clean, and always aspirate!

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17-02-2006, 06:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	When sneezing we exert pressure on our chest area. There are many ligaments, tendons, muscles which can get torn, pulled etc. From what I've heard it's quite easy to damage tendons and ligaments when taking steroid because our tendons/ligaments take longer to strengthen. I think that the fact that you notice it when sneezing is a real clue. The tightnes is probably due to some trauma created when lifting a weight too heavy or not warming up properly on a chest or back workout. Take it a bit easier for a couple of weeks, and if it's still bothering you or it gets worse or you start feeling dizzy, then go to the doctor. But I do think it's easy to get overly worried about these things. I had the same sympoms in my back just below the shoulder blade. I was convinced it was something serious. Ended up being a pulled ligament, or something along those lines. Still have to be careful now after ten years! PS I'm not a doctor.

17-02-2006, 08:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	cheers for the advice guys. i dont think i will bother going to the doctor because it isnt actually causing me any discomfort tbh. it was just more of a worry that i had because iv never felt this slight pressure on my chest before. i think you are probably right chalk -its probably just a slight deep tissue strain. as a precaution i think i will just use my next door neighbours machine and get my blood pressure checked to be on the safe side.

21-02-2006, 07:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	i was chatting to a guy in the gym and we got to talking about injection sites etc. i told him my methods of injection and he asked me if i aspirate. i dont(the guy that showed me how to inject failed to mention it)! then he explained why i should - he said that if you dont aspirate then you could potentially be injecting into the bloodstream, meaning that all the gear flows to your heart leading to heart growth and consequently heart problems! obviously now im worried! are the chest pains iv been having linked to this in any way! i usually inject into my glutes or delts and on a couple of occasions a little blood drips straight out. does this mean that a couple of my shots may have gone straight into my bloodstream and consequently have lead to the tightening feeling in my chest? it neds to be pointed out that this guy in the gym did spout quiet a lot of bolox about gear, and although i reaslise that i should have been pulling bac on the plunger before to check for blood, maybe this guy isoverreacting a bit about the heart etc?? ps its also worh pointing out that i checked my blood pressure and it was low. helpo much appreciated. it goes without saying that i will be aspirating on my future shots.

21-02-2006, 08:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	That sounds like the biggest load of bollocks EVER!

21-02-2006, 09:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 635 Rep Power:	he said that by injecting into the blood stream (which im not even sure if i have been doing) this leads to enlargement of the heart. is this not the case? andy - do you pull back on the syringe before injecting?? is there any way of knowing if i have accidently injected into the blood stream? this guy was talking a fair bit of bolox -for example his cycle was 750mg sustanon 250 and 1000mg deca every 5 days - all together!! which is a shit cycle IMO.

21-02-2006, 09:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	I don't pull back on the syringe before injecting, I would say most don't bother. He's an idiot.

21-02-2006, 09:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Ok. In theory you should aspirate, but I would say in reality 70% of people don't bother and have no problems. This enlargement of the heart story is definately rubbish though.