Early Steroid use

Young Gun

A concerning post was made in the introduce yourself forum by a new member concerning the use of steroids so I just thought I'd see everyone's views on the subject. Whilst I agree that its your body and you can do what u want with it I must admit I lose respect for people who roid pathetically early. An example would be people who roid before they can bench 100kg.

I don't mean to be personally disrespectful to anyone personally but I'm going to repeat GTforces post from the introduce yourself forum. I personally feel I have been too careless with anabolics and would change things if I could but I do feel that recently this site is becoming an advert for roid use pretty much if you understand the meaning of PCT and have heard of test and deca and I think that if the attitude is affecting others judgement as in the introduce yourself forum then it becomes dangerous.

Anyway to quote GT

One factor that is overlooked, and is one of the largest concerns, is psychological addiction. Guys who take shortcuts are often lured into this predicament.

I believe that only "true" bodybuilders and weightlifters have earned the right to experiment with steroids. What classifies one as a "true" bodybuilder? See the list below.

- Lifting AT LEAST 5 years.
- can bench press bodyweight AT LEAST 10 times.
- can perform AT LEAST 10 dead-hang chin-ups.
- can squat bodyweight for AT LEAST 20 deep reps.
- can deadlift AT LEAST twice your bodyweight.
- performs all the above exercises with PERFECT form.
- has increased strength every year during those first 5 years of training.
- eats AT LEAST 5 meals per day.
- can make a fairly accurate guess of carb content, protein conten, and fat content of any meal simply by lookinjg at it.
- consumes 1 gram of protein for every pound of bodyweight per day.

Now, anyone who is a "true bodybuilder/weightlifter" and wants to try gear should meet the following criteria:

- has tried supplements like creatine, NO2, glutamine, protein powder, and given them all a fair go.
- has spent AT LEAST a year researching roids.
- can effectively distinguish between media-generated bullshit and actual facts re:steroid use.
- has talked first-hand with someone who has used them extensively.
- has had a recent medical check-up and been given a clean bill of health.
- knows all about PCT.
- knows the following terms; cc. ml, amp, gauge, aspirate, sterile, half-life, HPTA, LH, and ancillaries.

Basically, if you do not qualify, you have no reason doing gear. Sure, it's your choice, but the less you know the greater the risk. Steroids themselves are not the problem; the skinny-ass pansies who are not willing to do the work and are looking for a shortcut that are the problem.
Bodybuilding is pretty simple : train, eat, rest, repeat for many years. If you cannot commit to that equation DO NOT use steroids. That is where psychological addiction comes in. Guys, who do not even know how to train naturally, start using gear WAY too early. They get some results, but due to their ignorance, lose all their gains afterwards and fall into a deep depression. This leads them to use gear again and again.
I know a guy who doesn't even train when he is clean. Complete loser in my opinion. He gets real big on gear - and thinks everyone is impressed - but the reality is that he is seen as a lazy fool. Natural bodybuilding requires patience and guts. Gear-assisted bodybuilding requires education, maturity, planning, and commitment.

True bodybuilders will easily be able to spot the difference between an athlete who has trained for years and is using gear to enhance his gains and the lazy wanker who only makes gains through gear. Those morons are the guys who give bodybuilding a bad name.

Rant over

Steroids are not inherently dangerous ; steroids in the hands of gutless, impatient, immature bodybuilder-wannabes can be very dangerous.

GTForce

razg

I am in full agreement with you.

Darren

agree with you.
I think you should try to develop as much as possible naturally & then only consider steroids, As what i have learnt over the years is that the more you use steroids the higher dosage you will need to stimulate the recepters as time goes by. But obviously some people are hard gainers in size or strenth or both & they need to do their homework throughly before taking the plunge.

Young Gun

Just because you classify yourself as a hardgainer doesn't give you an excuse to use anabolics ridiculously early.

devilsquest

true,a hard gainer is not an impossible gainer just means u have to work that little harder

Young Gun

yep. People who reach their first plateau and roid is bad enough but people who don't even plateau are just not in a position to. That said I do realize I'm being somewhat hypocritical because I've been guilty of this myself but I think proportionally ability to steroid use this site probably has the highest ratio and makes it look less of a decision than it is.

Nick500

That original post is awesome, i rememeber when gtforce posted that about 8 months ago.

Nick

Mr Nice

OK the post was good but come on training for 5 years before u touch AAS, 2-3 years of traing and eating seriously before you take AAS is more like it your should fill the above criteria eg lifting amount and rep amount in 2-3 years. Also eat anything just looking at it- thats rediculous. I agree with the rest though.

Young Gun

I don't think its ridiculous at all. I think 5 years training is a good bench mark and I can easily estiamte the protein carb and fat content of any meal I eat or look at.

Mr Nice

Ok.