back pain please advise

crazycal1 · 09-01-2006, 04:08 PM

as some of you may know that although i train i have what seems to be a long term back problem(although ive been training for 5ish years apart from the first 6 months where training was consistant, the next 3 were plagued with back pain and probably only trained for a third of the year -being unable to squat at all-after visiting and spending big???? on osteopaths and chiro`s(getting no more than temporary relief) i started stretching seriously-3x a day and my back got noticeably better(what i mean by that is the pain/discomfort could be coped with)after reading brawn(ha ha ****ing ha

)i bought a trap bar and started to squat with it-with no real pain-i then stopped working and couldnt afford to see a chiro-every now and again my back would flare up-so i went to see my doctor-lol-now cos i stretch so much i`m flexible as **** and in shape-call me paranoid but he didnt beleive me-i saw a specialist physio at the hospital-said i was fine- i paid to see a private doc(?160)that my doctor recommended-he said i was fine-everyone seemed to be ignoring the total stiffness of my back-finally i was sent to the rheumatology specialist who basically confirmed what the chiro had said-excellent i thought the nhs has recognized that i have a problem-the treatement-i was given 1 stretching exercise-lol-it was a good stretch(a tailbone type stretch)its helped a bit,but has it solved the problem-has it bollocks- went back to my gp-not interested-so ive written back to the hospital before christmas-and i`m still waiting for a reply-

the nhs diagnosis is as follows:
...is he has a dysfunctional L4/5,disc joint has virtually no flexion at all and minimal extension.he also has reduced extension between L4 and S1.he has reduced movementat the right sacroiliac joint as well.the sacroiliac joint movement is probably secondary to his lumbar problem--

i did some breathing exercises for the lower abs yesterday and the day before and my back is now crippling me(i was supposed to start training again today)so instead of training i`m asking you lot if youve got an ideas-yeah i`m ****ing desparate-i feel like shooting my gp cos i`m so frustrated-
sorry if this is all abit disjointed,but you cant just say my back hurts what shall i do-and not give the full story-
i dare say my back will be relatively ok within in days,(trigger point therapy helps),but as i said i`m frustrated and desparate-lol-so ant help would be appreciated- cheers cal :idea:

Nick500 · 09-01-2006, 04:11 PM

crazycal, have u tried massage therapy? It might help to reduce the pain perhaps? Also, making sure that your lumbar is properly supported in your car and where u work or whenever your sitting down, u can get these pads that clip on to chair that provide lower back support

Nick

FierceFrets · 09-01-2006, 04:36 PM

As Nick said really, but try to see a qualified sports rebilitation guy. Might cost a few quid for a session but most of them know what thier doing. Of course the danger is that they will simply refer you to your GP.

If that happened I think I could see a murder in CrazyCal land...

:twisted: Fierce

Mr Nice · 09-01-2006, 05:11 PM

Your doing the right stuff. I feel for you bro I had a similar problem myself couldnt squatt deadlift of bent over row, anyway I saw a osteopath didnt help much I just iced the area 3-4 times a day took diclofanac sodium got misses to massarge area quite hard and most importantly tried to take my mind off of it and not get streesed, Im back to traing full bor now and its history good luck bro I hope this helps.

crazycal1 · 09-01-2006, 05:12 PM

i am tempted to try massage-i have had it before-i`d find the money if i thought it would do the trick,but i`m really reluctant to spend more money for a temporary fix(****ing osteopaths will have you going back for years-when the usual back problems can be sorted by long term stretching)-and my chair i normally sit in is a really good STRESSLESS chair-nearly 1000,but what what nick was saying might help for sitting at the comp :idea:
i`m possibly looking for more stretches for the lower back/tailbone area-or a technique for relaxing/unseizing the muscles there-
nice one cal

Mr Nice · 09-01-2006, 05:32 PM

You know what helped aswell laying flat on your back contracting abdominals breathing deeply and slowly raising your arms it srenthens you core muscles which support your back sounds kinda wierd I tried it and it helps not straight away bot over the course of a few weeks doing it every day for 10mins, dont Knock it untill youve tried it good luck bro. ps let me know how it goes.

Comando Tom · 09-01-2006, 05:41 PM

Hey cal, might be long shot, but maybe you could try a course of cissus. I dont know how effective it is or whatever, but have heard a few good things for injuries.

You would have to ask around on how long to run it etc, but it dosent look to much a wallet killer compared to some of the therapies mentioned.

http://www.cheapuksupplements.co.uk/....php?xProd=233

Get well soon.

Nidge · 09-01-2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycal1

as some of you may know that although i train i have what seems to be a long term back problem(although ive been training for 5ish years apart from the first 6 months where training was consistant, the next 3 were plagued with back pain and probably only trained for a third of the year -being unable to squat at all-after visiting and spending big on osteopaths and chiro`s(getting no more than temporary relief) i started stretching seriously-3x a day and my back got noticeably better(what i mean by that is the pain/discomfort could be coped with)after reading brawn(ha ha ****ing ha

)i bought a trap bar and started to squat with it-with no real pain-i then stopped working and couldnt afford to see a chiro-every now and again my back would flare up-so i went to see my doctor-lol-now cos i stretch so much i`m flexible as **** and in shape-call me paranoid but he didnt beleive me-i saw a specialist physio at the hospital-said i was fine- i paid to see a private doc(160)that my doctor recommended-he said i was fine-everyone seemed to be ignoring the total stiffness of my back-finally i was sent to the rheumatology specialist who basically confirmed what the chiro had said-excellent i thought the nhs has recognized that i have a problem-the treatement-i was given 1 stretching exercise-lol-it was a good stretch(a tailbone type stretch)its helped a bit,but has it solved the problem-has it bollocks- went back to my gp-not interested-so ive written back to the hospital before christmas-and i`m still waiting for a reply-
the nhs diagnosis is as follows:
...is he has a dysfunctional L4/5,disc joint has virtually no flexion at all and minimal extension.he also has reduced extension between L4 and S1.he has reduced movementat the right sacroiliac joint as well.the sacroiliac joint movement is probably secondary to his lumbar problem--
i di some breathing exercises for the lower abs yesterday and the day before and my back is now crippling me(i was supposed to start training again today)so instead of training i`m asking you lot if youve got an ideas-yeah i`m ****ing desparate-i feel like shooting my gp cos i`m so frustrated-
sorry if this is all abit disjointed,but you cant just say my back hurts what shall i do-and not give the full story-
i dare say my back will be relatively ok within in days,(trigger point therapy helps),but as i said i`m frustrated and desparate-lol-so ant help would be appreciated- cheers cal :idea:

I posted about these on aother thread the other day, have you tried an inversion table? They are good for back injuries, I've had 5 operations on my back after an accident down the mines in the 80's, I as struggling to lift my legs 4 years ago till I saw an advertisement for the inversion table.

This is what I'm on about. http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/3353785.htm

Also this. http://www.back2.co.uk/products/back...-traction.html

crazycal1 · 09-01-2006, 06:46 PM

cheers mate-ive been intrigued by them for a while-tho i do hang upside down its not the same-nice one 8)

Nidge · 09-01-2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycal1

cheers mate-ive been intrigued by them for a while-tho i do hang upside down its not the same-nice one 8)

Like I said mate I've had mine for a few years and now I'm pain free regarding my back. Good luck in getting yourself right mate I know how you feel.

09-01-2006, 04:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,907 Rep Power:	back pain please advise as some of you may know that although i train i have what seems to be a long term back problem(although ive been training for 5ish years apart from the first 6 months where training was consistant, the next 3 were plagued with back pain and probably only trained for a third of the year -being unable to squat at all-after visiting and spending big???? on osteopaths and chiro`s(getting no more than temporary relief) i started stretching seriously-3x a day and my back got noticeably better(what i mean by that is the pain/discomfort could be coped with)after reading brawn(ha ha **ing ha )i bought a trap bar and started to squat with it-with no real pain-i then stopped working and couldnt afford to see a chiro-every now and again my back would flare up-so i went to see my doctor-lol-now cos i stretch so much i`m flexible as and in shape-call me paranoid but he didnt beleive me-i saw a specialist physio at the hospital-said i was fine- i paid to see a private doc(?160)that my doctor recommended-he said i was fine-everyone seemed to be ignoring the total stiffness of my back-finally i was sent to the rheumatology specialist who basically confirmed what the chiro had said-excellent i thought the nhs has recognized that i have a problem-the treatement-i was given 1 stretching exercise-lol-it was a good stretch(a tailbone type stretch)its helped a bit,but has it solved the problem-has it bollocks- went back to my gp-not interested-so ive written back to the hospital before christmas-and i`m still waiting for a reply- the nhs diagnosis is as follows: ...is he has a dysfunctional L4/5,disc joint has virtually no flexion at all and minimal extension.he also has reduced extension between L4 and S1.he has reduced movementat the right sacroiliac joint as well.the sacroiliac joint movement is probably secondary to his lumbar problem-- i did some breathing exercises for the lower abs yesterday and the day before and my back is now crippling me(i was supposed to start training again today)so instead of training i`m asking you lot if youve got an ideas-yeah i`m **ing desparate-i feel like shooting my gp cos i`m so frustrated- sorry if this is all abit disjointed,but you cant just say my back hurts what shall i do-and not give the full story- i dare say my back will be relatively ok within in days,(trigger point therapy helps),but as i said i`m frustrated and desparate-lol-so ant help would be appreciated- cheers cal :idea:

09-01-2006, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	crazycal, have u tried massage therapy? It might help to reduce the pain perhaps? Also, making sure that your lumbar is properly supported in your car and where u work or whenever your sitting down, u can get these pads that clip on to chair that provide lower back support Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

09-01-2006, 05:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mr Nice Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 226 Rep Power:	Your doing the right stuff. I feel for you bro I had a similar problem myself couldnt squatt deadlift of bent over row, anyway I saw a osteopath didnt help much I just iced the area 3-4 times a day took diclofanac sodium got misses to massarge area quite hard and most importantly tried to take my mind off of it and not get streesed, Im back to traing full bor now and its history good luck bro I hope this helps. ______________________ Nice

09-01-2006, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr Nice Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 226 Rep Power:	You know what helped aswell laying flat on your back contracting abdominals breathing deeply and slowly raising your arms it srenthens you core muscles which support your back sounds kinda wierd I tried it and it helps not straight away bot over the course of a few weeks doing it every day for 10mins, dont Knock it untill youve tried it good luck bro. ps let me know how it goes. ______________________ Nice

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09-01-2006, 04:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
FierceFrets Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 704 Rep Power:	As Nick said really, but try to see a qualified sports rebilitation guy. Might cost a few quid for a session but most of them know what thier doing. Of course the danger is that they will simply refer you to your GP. If that happened I think I could see a murder in CrazyCal land... :twisted: Fierce

09-01-2006, 05:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,907 Rep Power:	i am tempted to try massage-i have had it before-i`d find the money if i thought it would do the trick,but i`m really reluctant to spend more money for a temporary fix(****ing osteopaths will have you going back for years-when the usual back problems can be sorted by long term stretching)-and my chair i normally sit in is a really good STRESSLESS chair-nearly 1000,but what what nick was saying might help for sitting at the comp :idea: i`m possibly looking for more stretches for the lower back/tailbone area-or a technique for relaxing/unseizing the muscles there- nice one cal

09-01-2006, 05:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
Comando Tom Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 595 Rep Power:	Hey cal, might be long shot, but maybe you could try a course of cissus. I dont know how effective it is or whatever, but have heard a few good things for injuries. You would have to ask around on how long to run it etc, but it dosent look to much a wallet killer compared to some of the therapies mentioned. http://www.cheapuksupplements.co.uk/....php?xProd=233 Get well soon.

09-01-2006, 06:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,907 Rep Power:	cheers mate-ive been intrigued by them for a while-tho i do hang upside down its not the same-nice one 8)