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Old 23-10-2007, 05:34 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
 
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Hi i have been training for around a year and half, put on around 4 stone.

I used to eat shit and not very much but now i eat alot of proper bodybuilding meals around 8 aday

over the last 5 months i have started to feel so tired all the time now it has got so bad that i havent done a single shift at work (8hr shift) that i havent had to have a nap on!!

so i went to the docs and got a blood test, i thought i had low test as i had all the symptoms that i had red on net except low muscle mass BUT i havent got any stronger for ages now so thought it possible

blood test showed that my test level was in the normal range, lower end of range but still within the average range.

BUT my hemoglobin level is low which doc sed is like being anemic but there was another value that wasnt low that is when your anemic

and there was something just off the bottom of the scale with my liver values and he asked me if im a drinker, i dont drink at all!! which suprised me that there was something wrong with that.

ive got to go back in a month for another test and if thats same its hospital time for liver!

ive been looking on the net as to why my hemoglobin could be low with out being anemic and found this :-

If the necessary nitrogen is not taken in via your diet, your body only has the option to make the amino acids it needs by scavenging from structural body sources. These may include such entities as red blood cell hemoglobin, the lining of your intestines and gut, from muscle and other areas. This leaching may sacrifice certain functions already provided by the structural proteins of these sources and this is not kosher for overall body health.
Recently, several ultra long distance runners who had been eating the typical diet of high carbohydrates and fats but not much protein, were determined not only to be functionally anemic (low iron), but somewhat surprisingly, they had depleted almost all of their red blood cell hemoglobin proteins!


.... i think i get plenty of iron from my bodybuilding diet so i dont think its that also ive started taking an iron sup just in case.


does anyone have any idea whats up with me???


thank you
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Old 23-10-2007, 06:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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are you overtraining mate?are you depressed? bith will leave you exhausted bud-
they did me.
dunno bout the low cell count tho...soz

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You can get fatty deposits on the liver from all the wrong grub but clearly you say the diet is good.

A puzzle.

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One problem I had was that I was eating too much food and this was causing me to be tired due to the amount of digestion that the body was having to do. I was also bloated a lot.

I rectified this by adding more liquid meals to my diet so that my day looks like this

Solid meal
Liquid Meal
Solid Meal
Liquid meal

and so on.

I also have 2 of those Muller Bio drinks every day, morning and evening which helps to contribute good bacteria to my gut which can help process food and fight immune deficiency. It also help keeps bloat down although I still have the normal off season addition weight from all the food.

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first question that you need to answer honestly.. are you natural or not?

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4 stone in 18months and the liver of a drinker when he dont drink? gotta be on the gear gotta be!
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4 stone in 18 month even on gear is absolutely amazing! if its all muscle.. but even if only 50% is muscle.. its a bloody good amount!

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He's made loads of posts about DBol if thats an indication...
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tallnskinny your a searchengine warrior and really dont help alot of the time with your silly comments, hes made looadds of posts about dbol?? i know quite abit about gear that doesnt mean i use it, i havent taken anything but i am going to after a few more years training, why does someone who has made genuine good gains always get slated?!

I was too skinny before thats why i think i put mass on easy with just sorting the diet out but i dont ever go out at weekends never drink and never miss a meal i havet got much of a life really

and yes i am depresed cal if that has anything to do with it i dont know, and i do feel like i eat too much for my body to cope with digestion but if i dont i loose mass!

If i had taken gear i would know why my liver was damaged and my hemoglobin low wouldnt i? thats why i asked on this forum before its time for my next blood test to see if anyone had an idea

thanks for the replys from the people who helped rather than waste time writing stuff they know nothing about. Thanks
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4 stone in 18 month even on gear is absolutely amazing! if its all muscle.. but even if only 50% is muscle.. its a bloody good amount!
I was about 7% bf when i started at ROUGHLY 9ish stone

today im about 17% and 15st

its not all muscle but if i put a pic up i look like a diff person! especialy since i shave ma head now aswell\

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