Fat Loss whilst maintaining...

fanatic

Hi everyone,
This is first posting so be gentle!!

Im planning to lose some bodyfat and need some opinons and guidance on a proposed plan.

Recently ive fallen off the wagon and work committments has resulted in accumulating a few pounds of lard...

Ive been in pretty good shape before, and i know the importance of a good diet and training, but at the moment i need the boost of being 'on' something to motivate me to ahcive my goals.

Im basically aiming for single-digit BF %age before July. Im seriously considering Clenbuterol and have read mulitple articles on the substance. In addition to Clen, i was thinking of stacking Trib, ZMA and CEE combined with a slight calorie-deficit diet.

I know the paradox of cant gain whilst cutting and vice versa, but i was thinking along the lines of sparing exisiting muscle or even increasing lean-mass (slightly) during the cycle.

id be grateful if people could provide some example cycles of clen they have used and also any comments about the effectiveness (or not) of stacking with Trib, ZMA and CEE.

many thanks
fanatic

Rianabol

Hi Mate

Before jumping on the drug regime id manipulate diet first, I attain 9-10% fat but lowering carbs but not eliminating, write out ur intended diet and we will assist u, supplements should come later when all else has been utilised,

R

Tall

Whats ur current BF%?

As Rianabol said get your diet posted up.

I'm finding carb cycling whilest training for bulk is dropping my bf by about 0.4% a week.

fanatic

Hi guys,

183lbs, ~14-15% BF, 6'1".

Diet plan incorporates 6 meal, 3 hr split:

7am MRP - usn mf dynamic
10 am - Wholemeal pitta/ bread, chicken, apple
1pm - Wholemeal pitta/ bread, chicken, apple
4pm - Whey/ oat cakes or MRP
***training***
7pm - Post W/O shake
10pm - 300g Cottage cheese, blueberries

Any comments regarding the suggestion about trib/zma/CEE stacking whilst cutting or complete waste of time (already got them, given to me a some months ago, sitting in cupboard).

cheers

Tall

No idea if its a good cutting stack mate, its prob good for bulking.

Similar to what I'm on (Gaktec, Creatine, Trib)

Diet seems clean and lean, some people might say to drop the pitta in favour of Sweet Potato...

Whats your current weight and cardio routine?

How much muscle do you want to preserve/sacrifice in order to get single digit BF by July...?

Rianabol

Hi Mate

Right well the diet is deficient in EFA's which are essential. And I would vary the protein sources and eliminate the apples (fructose).

Breakfast 50g oats plus scoop of whey powder plus 5g flax seed oil

meal 2 smoked mackeral or salmon with salad and 50 g cous cous

meal 3 chicken breast veg and 1 sweet potato

meal 4 preworkout 50g oats plus protein powder

post work out 25g maltodextrin / 25g dextrose plus 40g protein

meal 5 same as meal 3 with no potato

before bed 1 tub of cottage cheese or quark.

Thats just something to start off with then u can tinker with the carbs when u feel uve stopped losing. Id still use the simple sugars post workout to aid recovery. After weights session u can add some cardio say 20mins then up it when u feel u need to.

R

fanatic

Hello mate,

yeah, would like to include some sweet potato and that diet plan is fairly rigid, apart from the 10am and 1pm which i get a vary a bit.

At the moment the way im working thiings out is as follows:

180lbs x 12 = ~2200 kcal per day / 6meals = ~360kcals per meal.

With this im not looking to gain much at all, but the goal is to reduce BF quite considerably...now i know/ read that realistically you should be aiming for about 1lb of fat per week (3500kcals) in order to maintain existing muscle... but ive read that Clen has anti-catabolic properties and also is a effective fat-burner. Therefore i thinking that taking Clen i can help me keep the calories pretty decent as to not affect training, mood, etc. and reduce BF levels.

The Trib/ZMA/CEE stack was there to maintain strength, recovery and improve sleep.

does any of this make sense??? not sure if im going in right direction here...

cheers

fanatic

Oh yeah guys,

sorry missed out the training side of things:

Chest/ Tris
Back/Bis/Abs
CV
Shoulders/Traps
CV
Legs
Day off - or CV (rare on sunday TBH!)

also take vitamin b6, flax oil (both twice daily) and multivit in morn...

wotcha think?

fanatic

anyone got any comments on a proven (i.e "its worked well for me") Clen cycle?

and coupled with a clean diet/training plan, what sort of results can i expect?

(i know that is a tough question to answer - but im looking for general responses from no. of people to geta concensus).

many thanks

Ruggerbugger

I think Clen is great stuff. But it loses its effectiveness after about two weeks. This can be resolved by taking Nytol everynight every third week. Then you can run it for an extended period.