Bulking and losing fat?

tedjoc · 28-11-2006, 09:42 PM

Im looking to build muscle but also loose body fat to, is it possible. I dont care if I end up at 18st as long as my body fat comes off. Also do I need to cut back on cv training to help build muscle? My normal training week is weights at midday for about 45mins. Training a different body part each day. I then do around 30-45mins cv each night. This is for 5-6 days a weeks. Any advice would be great.

**LeeB** · 29-11-2006, 09:13 AM

it is possible... but its a very fine line to do... some people can do this very well.. others cant!

so its not something that is reccomended very often!

personally id simply reccomend adding a time frame in which you want to build muscle and lose fat... say 6 months!

then have 3 months bulking and 3 months cutting! end result after 6 months if done correctly should be what your looking for!

Ali M · 29-11-2006, 09:17 AM

Your not going to do both mate, as lossing fat = less calories, building muscle/bulkingup = excess calories.

I can't see how you can do both, also the 30-45 mins of cardio will not help to build muscle id personally cut this back to 3 times a week max.

Ive just tried a simular thing myself whilst on gear and ive not really gained a great deal of weight but have gained better quality which is what i was looking for (no weight loss and more cut)

Others will post a better response.

bulldozer · 29-11-2006, 11:01 AM

I think its possible to build muscle and lose fat as a newbie trainer, first 6 months or so. After that its questionable.

Ali M · 29-11-2006, 11:52 AM

i agree with Lee here if you have a six month plan and plit into 2 then possibly but certainly not together, suppose it may be possibly but you would have to spot on with calories and calories used and everything else.

tedjoc · 29-11-2006, 01:12 PM

Cheers guys. That works out pretty good for me. Just had a few months of dieting, loads of cv and all that sort of stuff for my wedding, so means I can start a bulking stage now. Im in no rush and have no time limit so want to do it properly.

Canadianguy · 02-12-2006, 12:18 AM

i have found it somewhat possible to do this, but like lee said, a very fine line. Supplements are required, whether its gear or not. Youll look good, a nice beach body or just a good physique. But i doubt u will excell in mass or cutness, youll be in between. Its what ive been doing for the past 3.5 months now, and im enjoying my physique.

Good diet, reasonable cardio ( 3 days a week maybe) and sensible weight training. But like i said it depends on what u really want. Staying lean its possible to gain muscle size, it just takes longer, but youll look good the entire time with some nice abs

28-11-2006, 09:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
tedjoc Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oxford Posts: 23 Rep Power:	Bulking and losing fat? Im looking to build muscle but also loose body fat to, is it possible. I dont care if I end up at 18st as long as my body fat comes off. Also do I need to cut back on cv training to help build muscle? My normal training week is weights at midday for about 45mins. Training a different body part each day. I then do around 30-45mins cv each night. This is for 5-6 days a weeks. Any advice would be great.

29-11-2006, 09:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,982 Rep Power:	it is possible... but its a very fine line to do... some people can do this very well.. others cant! so its not something that is reccomended very often! personally id simply reccomend adding a time frame in which you want to build muscle and lose fat... say 6 months! then have 3 months bulking and 3 months cutting! end result after 6 months if done correctly should be what your looking for! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

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29-11-2006, 09:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ali M Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power:	Your not going to do both mate, as lossing fat = less calories, building muscle/bulkingup = excess calories. I can't see how you can do both, also the 30-45 mins of cardio will not help to build muscle id personally cut this back to 3 times a week max. Ive just tried a simular thing myself whilst on gear and ive not really gained a great deal of weight but have gained better quality which is what i was looking for (no weight loss and more cut) Others will post a better response.

29-11-2006, 11:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
bulldozer Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 497 Rep Power:	I think its possible to build muscle and lose fat as a newbie trainer, first 6 months or so. After that its questionable.

29-11-2006, 11:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ali M Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power:	i agree with Lee here if you have a six month plan and plit into 2 then possibly but certainly not together, suppose it may be possibly but you would have to spot on with calories and calories used and everything else.

29-11-2006, 01:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
tedjoc Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oxford Posts: 23 Rep Power:	Cheers guys. That works out pretty good for me. Just had a few months of dieting, loads of cv and all that sort of stuff for my wedding, so means I can start a bulking stage now. Im in no rush and have no time limit so want to do it properly.

02-12-2006, 12:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Canadianguy Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 98 Rep Power:	i have found it somewhat possible to do this, but like lee said, a very fine line. Supplements are required, whether its gear or not. Youll look good, a nice beach body or just a good physique. But i doubt u will excell in mass or cutness, youll be in between. Its what ive been doing for the past 3.5 months now, and im enjoying my physique. Good diet, reasonable cardio ( 3 days a week maybe) and sensible weight training. But like i said it depends on what u really want. Staying lean its possible to gain muscle size, it just takes longer, but youll look good the entire time with some nice abs