Am i eating right?

Chucky · 09-10-2006, 08:06 PM

Hi, im wanting to put to bulk up, so this obviously means upping my weight with this. Currently i weigh 11 stone and cannot seem to get past this!!

My current diet is:

5:30am - Bowl of muesli, Reflex whey protein shake with milk.

8:00am - Bagel filled with peanut butter, one banana.

10:00am - Bowl of pasta, tin of tuna, apple.

1.00pm - Met-rx meal replacement, (soon to be replaced with Reflex
instant mass.

3:00 - TRAIN.

AFTER - 600ml of water, one banana, 3 tablespoons of honey, 1 and a
half scoops of whey, all mixed together.

6:00pm - 'one of the below'
4 chicken breasts, sweet potato.
2 steaks, brown rice, mushy peas.
2 tuna steak, brown rice, courgette.

9:00pm - Chem Nutrition Pro Peptide with milk.

Would any of you mind letting me know what you think of this and how/if i can improve on it?

Thanks.

Nick.

Canadianguy · 11-10-2006, 01:59 AM

looks like a good muscle building diet. One thing id say is that 1 shake is not sufficient after a hard workout. Id say do the shake and then 1/2-1 hour after have ur big meal. Ur body is catabolic after a workout and u need to feed the crap out of it.

Other than that it looks pretty good.

Oh 1 last thing 4 checken beasts, imo, is over kill for 1 meal. thats close to 70 (depending on size, could be more or less) grams of protein in 1 meal. I dunno what u weight atm but i dont thnk its totally needed. U can spread that out to 2 or 3 breast and use the other one in a diff meal.

Once again just my opinion, most guys on here are far more knowledgeable than i am.

Nick500 · 11-10-2006, 04:20 AM

Need a meal 1 hour after your post-workout shake. Also just before you go to sleep.

6pm meal has 4 chicken breasts - why not split that into 2 meals of 2 chicken breasts?

**LeeB** · 11-10-2006, 09:16 AM

i dont think your eating enough protein regularly to be honest.

especially in the mornings/early afternoons... your protein intake and sources seem a little sporadic and mainly come from shakes... look to add more meat.. chicken, beef etc... seems to me your trying to eat more for convenience than muscle gain. (not a dig... have made same mistakes myself in past)

ideally you need to be having the same amounts of proteins for every meal. and having a meal every 2.5-3 hours...

also, your pre training meal is a full 2 hours before you actually train and is in fact a meal replacement shake.. id guess your body has already processed this before you train so your not actually fuelling yuor body fully for yuor training.

wheres the EFAs (ESSENTIAL fatty acids- healthy fats) and what about veg? 1 serving a day from what i can see????? your body needs the viatmins and minerals from these things!!

i would guess your getting roughly the calories you need.. maybe even the correct amounts fo protein etc.... but you need to rethink your timing with your meals and ensure your not just getting enough protein and calories etc... but getting enough NUTRITION to grow.... building muscle or losing fat... i.e. creating new muscle cells or turning fat cells into energy... happens through a chemical reaction in your body... if your body does not have all the chemicals it needs then this will never happen!

Chucky · 11-10-2006, 12:13 PM

Canadianguy and nick500, thanks ill do that.

LeeB, thanks. This is why i have joined this site so i can learn things and do the correct things that i need to do.

With regards to my pre training meal, this is when we have a break at work so its a bit difficult to eat any other time. Unless i eat something 10 mintues before i train?? But is this not bad!!?

What EFAs could i have then?

Thanks again.

Nick.

**LeeB** · 11-10-2006, 12:25 PM

if the only time you can eat a meal before training is 2 hours beforehand then ideally you want a slow digesting carbohydrate... i use sweet potato.. along with veg and EFAs in an ideal situation you would want your carbohydrate 45 mins before training.

why would eating something just before you train be bad? in some cases it may cause an upset stomach.. but a whey shake 10 mins before training should give you all teh amino acids you need whilst training.

my pretraining meal is actually split into 2 parts.. before i leave work i eat my sweet potato... then i drive to gym (about 50 mins) then when i get to gym i have my whey!

for EFAs i think better bodies (link on main page of this forum) will do som ekind of capsule for this? if not holland and barrett do optimum oil.. which is a blend of omega 3 6 and 9 oils!

Canadianguy · 11-10-2006, 04:14 PM

just want to add something here, if it seems ur having trouble getting protein from solid meals rather than mostyl from powders, look into explring other food that provides protein.

I had alot of trouble and it gets expensive eating so much chicken.

Id definately say eat mor tuna ( its cheaper) or if u like cheese like i do, u can buy skim milk cheese which has loads of protein, no carbs and very little fat and is good to throw in a meal to top off the protein. Eggs too my friend, either egg whites or omega 3 fortified eggs are a great addition to a diet for proetien and EFAs.

With this stuff i still eat my chicken ( 2 breasts a day or sometime more depends) and its not so hard to do and u wont get as bored so easily with eating.

cheers

09-10-2006, 08:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chucky Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 51 Rep Power:	Am i eating right? Hi, im wanting to put to bulk up, so this obviously means upping my weight with this. Currently i weigh 11 stone and cannot seem to get past this!! My current diet is: 5:30am - Bowl of muesli, Reflex whey protein shake with milk. 8:00am - Bagel filled with peanut butter, one banana. 10:00am - Bowl of pasta, tin of tuna, apple. 1.00pm - Met-rx meal replacement, (soon to be replaced with Reflex instant mass. 3:00 - TRAIN. AFTER - 600ml of water, one banana, 3 tablespoons of honey, 1 and a half scoops of whey, all mixed together. 6:00pm - 'one of the below' 4 chicken breasts, sweet potato. 2 steaks, brown rice, mushy peas. 2 tuna steak, brown rice, courgette. 9:00pm - Chem Nutrition Pro Peptide with milk. Would any of you mind letting me know what you think of this and how/if i can improve on it? Thanks. Nick.

11-10-2006, 04:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nick500 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:	Need a meal 1 hour after your post-workout shake. Also just before you go to sleep. 6pm meal has 4 chicken breasts - why not split that into 2 meals of 2 chicken breasts? ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication -

11-10-2006, 09:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,994 Rep Power:	i dont think your eating enough protein regularly to be honest. especially in the mornings/early afternoons... your protein intake and sources seem a little sporadic and mainly come from shakes... look to add more meat.. chicken, beef etc... seems to me your trying to eat more for convenience than muscle gain. (not a dig... have made same mistakes myself in past) ideally you need to be having the same amounts of proteins for every meal. and having a meal every 2.5-3 hours... also, your pre training meal is a full 2 hours before you actually train and is in fact a meal replacement shake.. id guess your body has already processed this before you train so your not actually fuelling yuor body fully for yuor training. wheres the EFAs (ESSENTIAL fatty acids- healthy fats) and what about veg? 1 serving a day from what i can see????? your body needs the viatmins and minerals from these things!! i would guess your getting roughly the calories you need.. maybe even the correct amounts fo protein etc.... but you need to rethink your timing with your meals and ensure your not just getting enough protein and calories etc... but getting enough NUTRITION to grow.... building muscle or losing fat... i.e. creating new muscle cells or turning fat cells into energy... happens through a chemical reaction in your body... if your body does not have all the chemicals it needs then this will never happen! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

11-10-2006, 12:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
LeeB Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,994 Rep Power:	if the only time you can eat a meal before training is 2 hours beforehand then ideally you want a slow digesting carbohydrate... i use sweet potato.. along with veg and EFAs in an ideal situation you would want your carbohydrate 45 mins before training. why would eating something just before you train be bad? in some cases it may cause an upset stomach.. but a whey shake 10 mins before training should give you all teh amino acids you need whilst training. my pretraining meal is actually split into 2 parts.. before i leave work i eat my sweet potato... then i drive to gym (about 50 mins) then when i get to gym i have my whey! for EFAs i think better bodies (link on main page of this forum) will do som ekind of capsule for this? if not holland and barrett do optimum oil.. which is a blend of omega 3 6 and 9 oils! ______________________ If your not a part of the greatest... you got to be the greatest yourself! For the best supplements: www.extremenutrition.co.uk

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11-10-2006, 01:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Canadianguy Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 98 Rep Power:	looks like a good muscle building diet. One thing id say is that 1 shake is not sufficient after a hard workout. Id say do the shake and then 1/2-1 hour after have ur big meal. Ur body is catabolic after a workout and u need to feed the crap out of it. Other than that it looks pretty good. Oh 1 last thing 4 checken beasts, imo, is over kill for 1 meal. thats close to 70 (depending on size, could be more or less) grams of protein in 1 meal. I dunno what u weight atm but i dont thnk its totally needed. U can spread that out to 2 or 3 breast and use the other one in a diff meal. Once again just my opinion, most guys on here are far more knowledgeable than i am.

11-10-2006, 12:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chucky Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 51 Rep Power:	Canadianguy and nick500, thanks ill do that. LeeB, thanks. This is why i have joined this site so i can learn things and do the correct things that i need to do. With regards to my pre training meal, this is when we have a break at work so its a bit difficult to eat any other time. Unless i eat something 10 mintues before i train?? But is this not bad!!? What EFAs could i have then? Thanks again. Nick.

11-10-2006, 04:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Canadianguy Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 98 Rep Power:	just want to add something here, if it seems ur having trouble getting protein from solid meals rather than mostyl from powders, look into explring other food that provides protein. I had alot of trouble and it gets expensive eating so much chicken. Id definately say eat mor tuna ( its cheaper) or if u like cheese like i do, u can buy skim milk cheese which has loads of protein, no carbs and very little fat and is good to throw in a meal to top off the protein. Eggs too my friend, either egg whites or omega 3 fortified eggs are a great addition to a diet for proetien and EFAs. With this stuff i still eat my chicken ( 2 breasts a day or sometime more depends) and its not so hard to do and u wont get as bored so easily with eating. cheers