anybody using a keto diet?

Fiba · 27-02-2006, 12:30 AM

Im starting a keto style diet tomorrow . Im out injured for a wee while and cant lift :cry: .

STATS- 224 lb 6"2 approx 20%bf

my diet will look like this...

meal 1 - 4 whole eggs scambled with 20g butter
(28p 45f oc)

meal 2 - can of tuna 15g olive oil, 20g salad cream.
(20p 20f 3c)

meal 3 - 80g chicken breast, 40g edam chees, 15g olive oil.
(30p 30f 0c)

meal 4 - can of tuna, 15g olive oil, 20g salad cream, 1 cheese slice.
(25p 25f 2.4c)

meal 5 - 80g chicken breast, 40g edam cheese.
(30p 20f 0c)

meal 6 - 100g bacon, whey protien.
(40p 22f 0c)

As i cant train properly i am going to try and do some light cardio every day.

im keeping my carbs as close to zero as possible until i reach ketosis and then will introduce some brocily and other greens to see how many carbs i can handle and still stay in ketosis .

iv ordered my ketostix and i hope to have reached ketosis by the time they arrive (wednesday).

Any feedback would be welcome

Fiba

milanorsx · 27-02-2006, 01:36 AM

I like keto diets. Most people find it hard to stay in ketosis, but I find it easy. You can drop a lot of body fat but you have to be careful not to lose too much muscle as this is possible. What has been your success like on these diets before?

Fiba · 27-02-2006, 07:37 AM

this will be my first try at it.

milanorsx have you done many keto diets before?
how does my proposed diet look to you?

Fiba

FAT BOY · 27-02-2006, 09:39 AM

i have, i dieted for my last show this way. if you are natural you stand to lose a lot of size.
i would make a couple of adjustments to your diet remember you need good fats not bad you also need to have a carb day once a week take in about 300grms of carbs on this day. this is basicaly the diet that i followed.

meal 1
6whole eggs omlette - with onion mushroom

meal 2
half a chicken
cup of cashews

meal 3
tin of salmon
brocoli and olive oil

meaL 4
whey protin drink mixed with one desert spoon of peanut butter

meal 5
steak veg

meal 6
whey protien drink mixed with one desertspoon of peanut butter

this was my diet the fats came from olive oil ,cashews, steak, salmon,
remember this is my diet and it worked for me ,

to adjust your diet
replace cheese with nuts, have whey with peanut butter, replace the bacon with steak, add brocoli and salad these have negligable carbs.

have a carb day once a week i also had a treat on this day chocolate icream ect . keeps you sane

take your vitamins and minerals 8)

Fiba · 27-02-2006, 06:06 PM

nuts sounds like a good idea. are salted nuts ok or is salt to be avoided on keto?

i was wanting to add flax seed oil aswell. Is takng flax seed capsuels o.k.

Today was not bad. thought i would have been craving carbs but i didnt miss em at all. Wasnt able to concentrate at all at work though. but i know that will pass when my body makes the switch from glyco stores to bodyfat.

fiba

Darren · 27-02-2006, 06:20 PM

i tried a keto diet a few years back.....it made feel slow & tired.

FAT BOY · 27-02-2006, 11:33 PM

Avoid the salted nuts m8. this diet is extreme and it doesnt suit everyone i found it hard for about two weeks then my body seemed to adjust, to be honest i dont know if i would use this diet next time,
i have dieted with and without carbs and with carbs is easier on the brain as you have all ready found it can affect your concentration. 8)

razg · 27-02-2006, 11:56 PM

One thing that concerns me about keto diets is that cortisol gets a free reign.

flug · 28-02-2006, 12:08 AM

which diet yields best fat loss. and are there effective cort. blocking supps. or drugs.

razg · 28-02-2006, 12:12 AM

The best compound to block cortisol is insulin. As for cortisol inhibition, you can't really run blockers all the time - IMO keto diets are no more effective than non-keto diets. From personal experience i've had no problem cutting with a relatively high carb diet - carb cycling is also supposed to be very effective, even though i've not used it.

27-02-2006, 12:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fiba Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 118 Rep Power:	anybody using a keto diet? Im starting a keto style diet tomorrow . Im out injured for a wee while and cant lift :cry: . STATS- 224 lb 6"2 approx 20%bf my diet will look like this... meal 1 - 4 whole eggs scambled with 20g butter (28p 45f oc) meal 2 - can of tuna 15g olive oil, 20g salad cream. (20p 20f 3c) meal 3 - 80g chicken breast, 40g edam chees, 15g olive oil. (30p 30f 0c) meal 4 - can of tuna, 15g olive oil, 20g salad cream, 1 cheese slice. (25p 25f 2.4c) meal 5 - 80g chicken breast, 40g edam cheese. (30p 20f 0c) meal 6 - 100g bacon, whey protien. (40p 22f 0c) As i cant train properly i am going to try and do some light cardio every day. im keeping my carbs as close to zero as possible until i reach ketosis and then will introduce some brocily and other greens to see how many carbs i can handle and still stay in ketosis . iv ordered my ketostix and i hope to have reached ketosis by the time they arrive (wednesday). Any feedback would be welcome Fiba

27-02-2006, 06:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fiba Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 118 Rep Power:	nuts sounds like a good idea. are salted nuts ok or is salt to be avoided on keto? i was wanting to add flax seed oil aswell. Is takng flax seed capsuels o.k. Today was not bad. thought i would have been craving carbs but i didnt miss em at all. Wasnt able to concentrate at all at work though. but i know that will pass when my body makes the switch from glyco stores to bodyfat. fiba ______________________ If your gonna do something ,do it right

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27-02-2006, 01:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
milanorsx Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power:	I like keto diets. Most people find it hard to stay in ketosis, but I find it easy. You can drop a lot of body fat but you have to be careful not to lose too much muscle as this is possible. What has been your success like on these diets before?

27-02-2006, 07:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Fiba Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 118 Rep Power:	this will be my first try at it. milanorsx have you done many keto diets before? how does my proposed diet look to you? Fiba

27-02-2006, 09:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
FAT BOY Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 836 Rep Power:	i have, i dieted for my last show this way. if you are natural you stand to lose a lot of size. i would make a couple of adjustments to your diet remember you need good fats not bad you also need to have a carb day once a week take in about 300grms of carbs on this day. this is basicaly the diet that i followed. meal 1 6whole eggs omlette - with onion mushroom meal 2 half a chicken cup of cashews meal 3 tin of salmon brocoli and olive oil meaL 4 whey protin drink mixed with one desert spoon of peanut butter meal 5 steak veg meal 6 whey protien drink mixed with one desertspoon of peanut butter this was my diet the fats came from olive oil ,cashews, steak, salmon, remember this is my diet and it worked for me , to adjust your diet replace cheese with nuts, have whey with peanut butter, replace the bacon with steak, add brocoli and salad these have negligable carbs. have a carb day once a week i also had a treat on this day chocolate icream ect . keeps you sane take your vitamins and minerals 8)

27-02-2006, 06:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Darren Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Crosby, Liverpool Posts: 225 Rep Power:	i tried a keto diet a few years back.....it made feel slow & tired.

27-02-2006, 11:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
FAT BOY Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 836 Rep Power:	Avoid the salted nuts m8. this diet is extreme and it doesnt suit everyone i found it hard for about two weeks then my body seemed to adjust, to be honest i dont know if i would use this diet next time, i have dieted with and without carbs and with carbs is easier on the brain as you have all ready found it can affect your concentration. 8)

27-02-2006, 11:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	One thing that concerns me about keto diets is that cortisol gets a free reign.

28-02-2006, 12:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
flug Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: essex Posts: 113 Rep Power:	which diet yields best fat loss. and are there effective cort. blocking supps. or drugs.

28-02-2006, 12:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	The best compound to block cortisol is insulin. As for cortisol inhibition, you can't really run blockers all the time - IMO keto diets are no more effective than non-keto diets. From personal experience i've had no problem cutting with a relatively high carb diet - carb cycling is also supposed to be very effective, even though i've not used it.