Last effort before i burn fat

RJ Magnus · 26-01-2006, 10:49 PM

Hey guys

Im not a big guy mass wise.

Im an ectomorph, im 6ft 2 and weight about 12 stone with a body fat % of about 11

Im gonna spend the next week (maybe 2) gaining as much weight as i can, eating and training myself to the limits before i burn off some more fat to get a more defined look.

Anyone got any tips of any sort on the diet and what body fat percentage i should aim for?

Also is there a speficic time of year when people should start aiming for a 6 pack or does it depend on genetics? opinions?

chalk · 26-01-2006, 11:19 PM

Firstly, you're not going to see much difference in only 2 weeks.
If your aim is to get bigger then you need to spend at least a good couple of months eating like a ba***rd and training heavy and hard. Do this until you're at a size your happy with OR your body fat gets to high (ideally no more than around 20 - 22%) Then start some intense cardio.

Secondly, if its only a six pack you're after then start on it now with a good routine of crunches, leg raises and of course plenty of cardio to get your BF down low enought to see the results. (check out the training sections, there's plenty of useful suggestions for your routine.

So, you can see that depending on what your goals are the advice is going to be different.

With regards to is there a better time to go for a six pack, well most people would agree that we tend to keep body fat in the winter. But hard work will still shift it!

SoulCard · 27-01-2006, 12:06 AM

...damn double post...see below...

SoulCard · 27-01-2006, 12:10 AM

[b]I made my comments in bold... [b/]

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Magnus

Hey guys

Im not a big guy mass wise.

Im an ectomorph, im 6ft 2 and weight about 12 stone with a body fat % of about 11

Im gonna spend the next week (maybe 2) gaining as much weight as i can, eating and training myself to the limits before i burn off some more fat to get a more defined look. if you are an ectomorph it will take you far longer than one-two weeks to gain enough weight to make a cut worth while, and if you are 11% bf now, you should have visible abs now

Anyone got any tips of any sort on the diet and what body fat percentage i should aim for? this is completely up to you, each persons goals vary

Also is there a speficic time of year when people should start aiming for a 6 pack or does it depend on genetics? opinions? yes, all year round!...genetics has nothing to do with it

my recommendation is one of two things...either go with a nice steady clean bulk or bulk heavy and hard and then cut back about 15 pounds...but you cant cut and bulk at the same time, its just not possible...

crazycal1 · 27-01-2006, 01:20 PM

go for a lean bulk dude-your bf is low already

devilsquest · 27-01-2006, 01:31 PM

im lean bulkin at the mo,,not that i have a choice lol

RJ Magnus · 27-01-2006, 03:04 PM

i have been bulking over the winter, gained about 0.5kg in weight wohoo lol but i dont really want to CUT the weight, just want to burn some body fat for definition.

Im still going to be lifting heavy and eating tonnes more protein then i am now, as that has been my downfall.

So i guess its more of a diet question.

I know pasta and porridge are good but what else is good to help burn fat without loosing the actual muscle mass?

Nick500 · 27-01-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ Magnus

i have been bulking over the winter, gained about 0.5kg in weight wohoo lol

0.5 kgs in winter (2 months...), your definitely not eating enough mate

but i dont really want to CUT the weight, just want to burn some body fat for definition.

You want to stay the same weight but burn body fat? Its near impossible to do that, it would be a simultaneous gain in muscle whilst cutting... The whole point of your bulk through winter (which should have netted you at least 10lbs of 'weight') is that you now cut off the fat you just put on..

Im still going to be lifting heavy and eating tonnes more protein then i am now, as that has been my downfall.

how much protein per day?

So i guess its more of a diet question.

I know pasta and porridge are good but what else is good to help burn fat without loosing the actual muscle mass?

Sorry, are you asking what carb sources help burn fat? None... cardio and a calorific deficit will help you lose fat. In terms of carb sources that are low GI and therefore cause less insulin sensitivity -> normally aimed for if trying to lose fat, then oats, brown rice, sweet potatoes are your main friends, brown bread, brown pasta not quite as good but still OK.

Comments in bold above

Given by your progress pics, I would strongly urge you to not do this cut, your already very lean, get eating like double what you have been on your 'bulk' and pack on the mass !! Then do this 'cut' once you have gained 10 - 20lbs hopefully in the next 3 - 4 months ready for the beach...

Anonymous · 27-01-2006, 03:55 PM

mate, your tall

cutting at 12 stone will leave you looking immaciated.

you really want to be 11 stone to get them abs in?

my advice if you do.

cardio and calorie deficit

all the above advice is spot on.

tbh i think you would be better clean bulking the whole year.

RJ Magnus · 27-01-2006, 09:20 PM

Yeah your right.

Its really just that little bit of fat below the belly i desperately want rid of, its always been there.

I will try bulking up for longer now see how it goes thanks for the advice guys.

26-01-2006, 10:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
RJ Magnus Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 90 Rep Power:	Last effort before i burn fat Hey guys Im not a big guy mass wise. Im an ectomorph, im 6ft 2 and weight about 12 stone with a body fat % of about 11 Im gonna spend the next week (maybe 2) gaining as much weight as i can, eating and training myself to the limits before i burn off some more fat to get a more defined look. Anyone got any tips of any sort on the diet and what body fat percentage i should aim for? Also is there a speficic time of year when people should start aiming for a 6 pack or does it depend on genetics? opinions? ______________________ http://groups.msn.com/YourBodyYourTemple

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27-01-2006, 01:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
devilsquest Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,164 Rep Power:	im lean bulkin at the mo,,not that i have a choice lol ______________________ i cant link to my site it seems the uk sites are not happy with it so check my profile or pm me

27-01-2006, 03:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
RJ Magnus Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 90 Rep Power:	i have been bulking over the winter, gained about 0.5kg in weight wohoo lol but i dont really want to CUT the weight, just want to burn some body fat for definition. Im still going to be lifting heavy and eating tonnes more protein then i am now, as that has been my downfall. So i guess its more of a diet question. I know pasta and porridge are good but what else is good to help burn fat without loosing the actual muscle mass? ______________________ http://groups.msn.com/YourBodyYourTemple

27-01-2006, 09:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
RJ Magnus Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 90 Rep Power:	Yeah your right. Its really just that little bit of fat below the belly i desperately want rid of, its always been there. I will try bulking up for longer now see how it goes thanks for the advice guys. ______________________ http://groups.msn.com/YourBodyYourTemple

26-01-2006, 11:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	Firstly, you're not going to see much difference in only 2 weeks. If your aim is to get bigger then you need to spend at least a good couple of months eating like a ba***rd and training heavy and hard. Do this until you're at a size your happy with OR your body fat gets to high (ideally no more than around 20 - 22%) Then start some intense cardio. Secondly, if its only a six pack you're after then start on it now with a good routine of crunches, leg raises and of course plenty of cardio to get your BF down low enought to see the results. (check out the training sections, there's plenty of useful suggestions for your routine. So, you can see that depending on what your goals are the advice is going to be different. With regards to is there a better time to go for a six pack, well most people would agree that we tend to keep body fat in the winter. But hard work will still shift it!

27-01-2006, 01:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
crazycal1 Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,866 Rep Power:	go for a lean bulk dude-your bf is low already

27-01-2006, 03:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	mate, your tall cutting at 12 stone will leave you looking immaciated. you really want to be 11 stone to get them abs in? my advice if you do. cardio and calorie deficit all the above advice is spot on. tbh i think you would be better clean bulking the whole year.

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