Fat with/without carbs and too much fat at bedtime?

groovyguy

I'm cutting and my brekkie consists of 3 eggs with yolks and 25-30ml olive oil (as well as some tuna or cottage cheese). I was wondering if I should bother having any toast with it on non-workout days, as there's plenty of fat there to keep me going and I do next to sweet FA at the moment, plus I'm eating ever 2-3 hours anyway.

I also take whey in milk at bed time, does anyone think there's too much fat if I take my omega 3 fish caps (7 of 'em) with it to prolong the release of the protein or are they better suited to another time of day?

Cheers people!

Andy1981iron

Starting the day with three eggs with yolks, olive oil and cottage cheese??

Sounds more like you're bulking. :shock:

Sounds to me like you're analyzing it a bit too much. Keep the fat down to around 50gms a day and keep protein intake high, plenty of cardio.

I dunno about this prolong release time lark, maybe but it will prob only make 0.5% difference.

Instead or of asking all these very similar questions (not that there is anything wrong with that!) spend the time doing some cardio!

I keep things simple, makes it hell of a lot easier to keep up long term.

Peace

groovyguy

Cottage cheese has less than 1% fat, I don't know where everyone hets this idea that it's fatty??? My fat is a little less than 50g a day, the rest of the day my intake is carbs and protein only really, but energy sources should be spaced out really shouldn't they? I basically want to check if it's OK to not have carbs and instead have the fat? Or maybe I should ditch the oil in favour of Fry-Lite?

FAT BOY

Take some carbs at breakfast something like oats, and cut the fat down.

if you havent had carbs first thing you have prabably gone 12 /15 hours with no carbs to long m8.

if you are dieting you need to keep up your carbs and protien and keep the fat down.

same as trigger says pick up your cardio

as regards your eggs boil or scramble them

crazycal1

trigger1981ironabsolutely-to many people worrying about the small stuff :!:

Nick500

the fat they are referring to is the olive oil, which is 100%, why are u having it ?
Nick

Young Gun

Ok not really enough solid answers in the thread but everyone makes valid points.

Ok one. No your on a cut there are atleast 10 different carb sources I can think of better than the bread so no toast.

2. There are two times in the day it is vitally important to ensure protein uptake and general nutrient uptake happens as quick as possible. PWO and first thing in the morning as these are the times yours muscles need this most. Which means as minimal fat as possible at these times. How many people you know have peanut butter PWO. Olive oil in the morning is a bad idea.

3. Drop the egg yolks use more egg whites. egg yolks are high in fat and cholesterol, whether this matters is down tyo opinion, see Nick's cholesterol thread but drop them IMO.

4. Don't use 7 fish oil caps at once try more spaced but yes b4 bed is a good idea fats slow digestion down good idea at bed time. But not 7

5. Dairy on a cut leaves you watery IME its up to you but drop the cottage cheese, because it has a low fat content does not make it good food. Muller light yogurts have a low fat content and they suck.

There are various diets posted all over the site with more detailed critque and comments. Run a search. Tuna and whey are cheap as **** and much more nutritionally beneficial to you than dairy for the price you pay.

groovyguy

It's OK, other things I have are oats, mashed potato, baked potato or wholewheat pasta. The toast I do have is ALWAYS wholegrain BTW.

I have whey in water 30 mins to an hour before the breakfast. I figure the meal following the whey should be low GI, therefore good fat - olive oil - or carbs - toast.

I worry a lot about cholesterol, I never have more than 3 a day but considering the good stuff in the yolk, I figure the few extra kcals in there are worth it, I'll just ditch the oil. TBH now I think of it, I wonder why I didn't use Fry-Lite once I started the cut. I suppose once cooking wth it, I couldn't imagine NOT cooking with it...

OK, I'll reduce it to say... 4? Mind you it is only 7g of fat in one sitting. You sure that's too much? Not arguing, just being Devil's advocate!

Ah yes, opinions on this subject appreciated here. Cottage cheese has 13g of protein per 100g... 250g of it with my eggs makes a 50g meal! Mullers IMO are a yummy sub 100 kcal treat they rock, and they have 9g of protein too.

There are various diets posted all over the site with more detailed critque and comments. Run a search. Tuna and whey are cheap as **** and much more nutritionally beneficial to you than dairy for the price you pay.[/quote]I eat loads of tuna and whey too, I just like a bit of variation. 60g of my protein comes from dairy, the rest does come from whey and tuna. Cottage cheese and quark are cheap to BTW. Just like a bit of variation.

Thanks for noticing and giving me some solid answers, appreciated.

Poom

Just a warning

3 yolks a day (i assume no more after breakfast)

Meaning 21 yolks a week

Is a very very high amount of cholestorol (sp?) intake , be careful

Nick500

hmm..

see the thread on cholesterol here: http://musclechat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4270

i'm not convinced its all that high to have 3 or below a day, i have that now. I think 6 and above wouldnt be good for u.