EC without the A!

Andy1981iron

Is Ephedrine + Caffeine stack still effective?

Stu21Ldn

yes

crazycal1

coffee and aspirin is a good pre workout buzz on its own

einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know.

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BIGPHIL

Overview
This FAQ is aimed at providing bodybuilders in the UK with additional
information needed to obtain and successfully use the ECA stack. This FAQ is not
intended to give in depth information, but act as a UK biased extension to all
the other ECA info that is in circulation. The technical detail in this FAQ has
intentionally been kept to a minimum to make the content accessible to all.

What does ECA stand for?
ECA stands for Ephedrine Hydrochloride (ephedrine), Caffeine and Aspirin. They
are the three ingredients that make up the stack.

What the stack can do?
Stacking the above ingredients and taking them in doses throughout the day has
been shown to help increase fat loss by stimulating your body's metabolism.
(Assuming that you are following a sensible calorie controlled diet.)
Additionally, the ECA stack is thought to have anti-catabolic properties, so you
lose less muscle while dieting.

Who shouldn't take the stack?
The ECA stack acts as a powerful stimulant that can raise your blood pressure
and slightly alter the ratio of good / bad cholesterol in the blood. Therefore
anyone with high blood pressure or heart problems should not take the stack.

Where can I get the stack?
In the UK ephedrine is a prescription drug. Therefore it is very difficult to
obtain it by itself. Luckily, a product called Do-Do Chesteze contains Ephedrine
and is freely available from most chemists in the UK. Chesteze comes in packets
of 12 and 36 tablets. Caffeine can also be obtained from most chemists in a
product called Pro-Plus. This is available in packets of 24, 48 and 96 tablets.
Aspirin is easiest of all to obtain as it is freely available in it's generic
form from all chemists.

What if the chemist asks me funny questions?
The chemist may ask you questions such as:

* Have you taken this before?
* Are you on any other medications?
* What are your reasons for buying this?

The best things to say in reply are: - yes - no - to help my breathing as my
chest is a bit tight If you still have problems then you could try going to a
small independent chemist who is more likely to serve you without question. It
is also an idea to spread your purchases over a few shopping visits to reduce
any su****ion.

What dosages should I take?
The ideal ratio for the ECA stack is 10:1 caffeine to ephedrine. Many sources
suggest that the ideal dosage is 25mg ephedrine, 250mg caffeine and 80-300mg
aspirin. More specifically, you could take 1 Chesteze, 3-4 Pro-plus and half a
full dose aspirin. This gives you 18.3 mg ephedrine, 180mg caffeine, 150mg
aspirin. Some people take double the dosage of Chesteze and Pro-plus, but this
is an individual thing so I would start at this lower dosage and see how it
effects you.

How often?
The above dosage should be taken 3 times a day with at least 3 hours in between.
It is also recommended that your last dose should be before 6:00 pm, or you may
have problems getting to sleep. Some people recommend only taking the stack 5
days a week with 2 days off to allow your body a small break from the effects.
Others stay on it 7 days a week. Again this is a personal thing so you may want
to experiment. Along the same lines, some people will use the stack for weeks
without stopping. Other's will cycle the doses i.e. 2 weeks on then a week off
etc. It is recommended that 4 weeks would be about the maximum that you should
stay on the stack without a break of at least a week. The basic rational is that
your body will become used to the ECA stack stimulation and the effects will
wear off. By taking a break, it is possible for your body to reap better rewards
when you go back on the stack. The wired up feeling is likely to diminish within
1-2 weeks of starting the stack. Evidence shows that the fat burning properties
of the stack still continue well after that time, so do not assume that an
immediate break is needed.

What is this Theophylline ingredient in Chesteze?
Theophylline is a kind of sister drug to caffeine. (i.e. it is a member of the
same family of drugs.) They are both stimulants and work in very similar ways.
Theophylline does stimulate the heart muscle tissue to a greater extent than
caffeine, but is safe in doses of under 1000 mg a day. Some say that since
theophylline is very like caffeine, you can reduce the dosage of caffeine in the
stack by 100mg. Again experiment.

Conclusion
The ECA has been used by thousands of people to help them lose weight. It has
been shown to be safe and effective and not have any noticeable side-effects.





ITRIED THIS WITHOUT ASPRIN WORKED FINE M8