PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAN YOU BODYBUILDING BOYS HELP ME

pie muncher · 01-12-2004, 06:22 PM

:cry:

HELLO EVERYONE.

FIRST OF ALL IM 23 YEARS OLD. IM 5'11" AND IM, WAIT FOR IT, 16ST, DOWN FROM 16ST 9LB. YES UNLIKE YOU LOT IM A LARD BUCKET, MAN TITS FATBOY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL ME FOR THE DURATION IVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE.
I HAVE STARTED TRAINING, HENCE THE 9 LB LOSS. HOWEVER IM STUCK NOW.
I WANT TO BE 14ST OF SOLID MUSCLE. I DONT WANT TO BE WEAK. I TRAIN 4-5 TIMES A WEEK DOING HEAVY (TO ME) BICEPS, TRICEPS, SHOULDERS AS I WANT THESE TO BE BIGGER. CHEST I DO MEDIUM WEIGHT HIGHER REPS TO BURN THE MAN BOOBS OFF.
HOWEVER IVE STARTED TAKING PROLAB WHEY AND I FEEL STONG BUT DONT FEEL TO BE GETTING THINNER, NOR DO THE SCALES TELL ME THIS. I LOVE CARDIO BUT COS IM EATING LESS FEEL WEAK AND DRAINED BEFORE IM IN THE GYM. I WANT TO EXPLODE ONTO THE RUNNING MACHINE IF YOU GET ME? CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE PLEASE? HERE IS MY DAILY DIET AS FOLLOWS, OH MY CARDIO IS NORMALLY A MIN OF 45MIN PER SESSION?

BREAKFAST 5AM
MEDIUM BOWL OF PORRIDGE OATS WITH RAISENS, MADE WITH SKIMMED MILK. 1 PINT OF WATER

MID MORNING SNACK 11AM
WAFER THIN TURKEY HAM SARNI, ON THICK WHOLEMEAL BREAD LIGHTLY BUTTERED WITH ENGLISH MUSTARD. PINT OF WATER.

LUNCH 1PM
AS ABOVE WITH AN APPLE OR BANANNA MORE WATER, PINT OF.

TRAIN 2PM

HOME 4PM, SOMETIMES PROTEIN SHAKE, TWO BIG SCOOPS IN SKIMMED MILK.I ONLY HAVE THIS IF I HAVE LIFTED ALOT OF WEIGHTS.

TEA 5PM/6PM
JACKET POTATO, MEDIUM SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST, LOTS OF FRESH VEG BROCCOLI PEAS ETC. MORE WATER.
I DRINK A MIN OF 2 LITRES A DAY.

PLEASE LADS CAN YOU ADVISE ME AS I CANT AFFORD A DIETICIAN, ALSO IS A PEANUT BUTTER AND JAM SANDWICH GOOD FOR ENERGY AS SOMEONE TOLD ME THIS WOULD HELP FOR ENERGY BEFORE THE GYM? PLEASE LADS ANY HELP WILL BE MORE THAN APPRECIATED. REGARDS, PIE MUNCHER.

zx9rjas · 01-12-2004, 09:50 PM

Hello there

I have helped quite a few few people decrease from your bodyweight to your target weight.

Try these things

Perform your cardio 10-15 mins after you wake before breakfast. And follow this routine.

Monday

4 mins jogging, (15-20 second sprint then 45-40 seconds jogging) repeat this sprint/jog 8 times, jog for 4 minutes.

Wednesday

4 mins jogging, (30 seconds fast running then 30 seconds jogging) repeat this run/jog 20 times, jog for 4 mins

Friday

35-40 mins of medium paced running/jogging or cycling

Also, consume just fats and protein during the day up until your evening workout. 45 mins before you hit the weights get 30g of whey protein with 65-70g carbs, consumke this same amount when you finish your last set. Then 1.5 hours laster get a high protein/high carb meal and another 3 hours after that.

Let me know if you are o.k with this.

J

Anonymous · 11-12-2004, 10:59 PM

cut all your dairy products mate

SteT · 16-12-2004, 06:18 PM

Not easy and takes time but try this. Work out your average number of calories daily for say 7 days, stick to the same cardio perhaps as reccomended above, but definately 1st thing in the morning (you will burn off more fat then as you have no food reserves to burn).
Monitor your wt only once a week ( other wise it can becaome an obsession ) say 1st thing before breakfast on a Sunday.
If you are not loosing wt drop a couple of hundred calories daily from your intake preferably from carbs.
Again monitor wt if you are loosing wt, sound stick with it, until you stop, then drop another hundred or so calories daily.
Don't go stupid and drop to many to fast, the wt will not stay off, you will always be hungry.
You can either continue to drop calories or up the cardio, do not go to low stick to around 2500 a day until you reach your wt. Then re evaluate the diet and go for more muscle type.
It will take time but the resukts will come and will stay.
let us know how you get on.

meathead1987 · 24-12-2004, 01:16 PM

You do not wanna be doing Fasted state sprints. I would advise this:

5am wake, water
5.30 go for a jog/walk for 30mins, just enough to get you breathing heavy.(HR between 60-70% MHR)
6.30 Breakfast

As far as macronutrients go:

Get 1g/lb protein a day(you are not getting enough)
the same amount of carbs(mostly around workouts)
0.5g/lb fats.

Every week, have 1 cheat meal. and eat whatever the hell you want.

pie muncher · 27-12-2004, 01:18 PM

ok the advice is gold lads and the weight is quite litterally dropping off me. i now want to start doind weights though as i feel weak in myself if you get my drift. can you tell me what the best protein is that you can buy? currently using prolab 100% whey? not sure if its any good though.

thanks chaps

zx9rjas · 27-12-2004, 01:34 PM

I use 100% pure whey for breakfast and my pre and post wokout shakes (with maltodextrin). The best way is to get a mixture of proteins for all amino acids. Make sure you get some chicken and lean beef in at least two of your meals daily.
Keep me posted on your progress mate.

J

pie muncher · 27-12-2004, 02:23 PM

thanks for that j, one more thing mate, i shop in asda and thay always have turkey steaks which are cheaper than chicken breasts, are these a better source of protein than chicken?

:shock: thanks adam.

01-12-2004, 06:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
pie muncher Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: birmingham Posts: 276 Rep Power:	PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAN YOU BODYBUILDING BOYS HELP ME :cry: HELLO EVERYONE. FIRST OF ALL IM 23 YEARS OLD. IM 5'11" AND IM, WAIT FOR IT, 16ST, DOWN FROM 16ST 9LB. YES UNLIKE YOU LOT IM A LARD BUCKET, MAN TITS FATBOY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL ME FOR THE DURATION IVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE. I HAVE STARTED TRAINING, HENCE THE 9 LB LOSS. HOWEVER IM STUCK NOW. I WANT TO BE 14ST OF SOLID MUSCLE. I DONT WANT TO BE WEAK. I TRAIN 4-5 TIMES A WEEK DOING HEAVY (TO ME) BICEPS, TRICEPS, SHOULDERS AS I WANT THESE TO BE BIGGER. CHEST I DO MEDIUM WEIGHT HIGHER REPS TO BURN THE MAN BOOBS OFF. HOWEVER IVE STARTED TAKING PROLAB WHEY AND I FEEL STONG BUT DONT FEEL TO BE GETTING THINNER, NOR DO THE SCALES TELL ME THIS. I LOVE CARDIO BUT COS IM EATING LESS FEEL WEAK AND DRAINED BEFORE IM IN THE GYM. I WANT TO EXPLODE ONTO THE RUNNING MACHINE IF YOU GET ME? CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE PLEASE? HERE IS MY DAILY DIET AS FOLLOWS, OH MY CARDIO IS NORMALLY A MIN OF 45MIN PER SESSION? BREAKFAST 5AM MEDIUM BOWL OF PORRIDGE OATS WITH RAISENS, MADE WITH SKIMMED MILK. 1 PINT OF WATER MID MORNING SNACK 11AM WAFER THIN TURKEY HAM SARNI, ON THICK WHOLEMEAL BREAD LIGHTLY BUTTERED WITH ENGLISH MUSTARD. PINT OF WATER. LUNCH 1PM AS ABOVE WITH AN APPLE OR BANANNA MORE WATER, PINT OF. TRAIN 2PM HOME 4PM, SOMETIMES PROTEIN SHAKE, TWO BIG SCOOPS IN SKIMMED MILK.I ONLY HAVE THIS IF I HAVE LIFTED ALOT OF WEIGHTS. TEA 5PM/6PM JACKET POTATO, MEDIUM SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST, LOTS OF FRESH VEG BROCCOLI PEAS ETC. MORE WATER. I DRINK A MIN OF 2 LITRES A DAY. PLEASE LADS CAN YOU ADVISE ME AS I CANT AFFORD A DIETICIAN, ALSO IS A PEANUT BUTTER AND JAM SANDWICH GOOD FOR ENERGY AS SOMEONE TOLD ME THIS WOULD HELP FOR ENERGY BEFORE THE GYM? PLEASE LADS ANY HELP WILL BE MORE THAN APPRECIATED. REGARDS, PIE MUNCHER.

01-12-2004, 09:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	Hello there I have helped quite a few few people decrease from your bodyweight to your target weight. Try these things Perform your cardio 10-15 mins after you wake before breakfast. And follow this routine. Monday 4 mins jogging, (15-20 second sprint then 45-40 seconds jogging) repeat this sprint/jog 8 times, jog for 4 minutes. Wednesday 4 mins jogging, (30 seconds fast running then 30 seconds jogging) repeat this run/jog 20 times, jog for 4 mins Friday 35-40 mins of medium paced running/jogging or cycling Also, consume just fats and protein during the day up until your evening workout. 45 mins before you hit the weights get 30g of whey protein with 65-70g carbs, consumke this same amount when you finish your last set. Then 1.5 hours laster get a high protein/high carb meal and another 3 hours after that. Let me know if you are o.k with this. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

16-12-2004, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
SteT Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power:	Not easy and takes time but try this. Work out your average number of calories daily for say 7 days, stick to the same cardio perhaps as reccomended above, but definately 1st thing in the morning (you will burn off more fat then as you have no food reserves to burn). Monitor your wt only once a week ( other wise it can becaome an obsession ) say 1st thing before breakfast on a Sunday. If you are not loosing wt drop a couple of hundred calories daily from your intake preferably from carbs. Again monitor wt if you are loosing wt, sound stick with it, until you stop, then drop another hundred or so calories daily. Don't go stupid and drop to many to fast, the wt will not stay off, you will always be hungry. You can either continue to drop calories or up the cardio, do not go to low stick to around 2500 a day until you reach your wt. Then re evaluate the diet and go for more muscle type. It will take time but the resukts will come and will stay. let us know how you get on. ______________________ Ste T. THE HARDER THE FIGHT TO GET THERE THE MORE DETERMINED THE FIGHT TO STAY

27-12-2004, 01:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	I use 100% pure whey for breakfast and my pre and post wokout shakes (with maltodextrin). The best way is to get a mixture of proteins for all amino acids. Make sure you get some chicken and lean beef in at least two of your meals daily. Keep me posted on your progress mate. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

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11-12-2004, 10:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	cut all your dairy products mate

24-12-2004, 01:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	You do not wanna be doing Fasted state sprints. I would advise this: 5am wake, water 5.30 go for a jog/walk for 30mins, just enough to get you breathing heavy.(HR between 60-70% MHR) 6.30 Breakfast As far as macronutrients go: Get 1g/lb protein a day(you are not getting enough) the same amount of carbs(mostly around workouts) 0.5g/lb fats. Every week, have 1 cheat meal. and eat whatever the hell you want.

27-12-2004, 01:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
pie muncher Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: birmingham Posts: 276 Rep Power:	ok the advice is gold lads and the weight is quite litterally dropping off me. i now want to start doind weights though as i feel weak in myself if you get my drift. can you tell me what the best protein is that you can buy? currently using prolab 100% whey? not sure if its any good though. thanks chaps

27-12-2004, 02:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
pie muncher Making Progress Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: birmingham Posts: 276 Rep Power:	thanks for that j, one more thing mate, i shop in asda and thay always have turkey steaks which are cheaper than chicken breasts, are these a better source of protein than chicken? :shock: thanks adam.