When to cut up

warchild · 22-10-2004, 04:36 PM

Being the vain boy that I am, I like to look good for the summer.

After eating and bulking into a fat boy, when would you say is a good time to change things and start cutting up. At the moment in the right light you can see my six pack, i anticipate by xmas I should have a keg with no cans in sight.

I have no idea about body fat % but my waist is 33" and expanding. It normally is around 31.5".

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Dan

Anonymous · 29-10-2004, 11:52 PM

hello warchild,

give youself 12-16 weeks to cut up if your a natural, this way you will keep mpst of your hard earned muscle,that you gained while bulking.

try and do it to quick and you will lose muscle badly.

if you want to be cut by june, start cutting four months before,

have you used eca?

warchild · 30-10-2004, 11:40 AM

Hi Steve,

I have never tried eca, just after xmas last year my gym had some lean system 7 for 20. I tried it for the full course and it was a waste of time.

I would like just for once in my life to be totally ripped just to know that I could do it.

My favourite part of training is lifting the heavy (to me) weights, this is what gives me the buzz and coming back for more. For the 16 week dieting cycle will I still be able to lift heavy or do I have to go for light weights and high reps?

How easy is it to keep up with the dieting etc for 3 to 4 months?

Cheers

Dan

Anonymous · 30-10-2004, 01:30 PM

yeah lean system 7, is probably no good, as it dont contain ephedra/ephedrine.

doug from extreme nutrition has some real good fatburners.

yeah still lift heavy,even keep the same routine... you may need to adjust slightly,..this is where alot of people make the mistake,and change to light weights.and just canobilise the muscles.

you will find you will lose some strnegth,it usually starts after you have lost about a stone. but try and keep this to a minimum.

the dieting will be one of the hardest thing you will ever do,and for 3-4 months it will seem like forever.

what you need to do, is lower your carb intake each week, only by aliitle bit, try not to have any cheat meals at all.and take a eca stack.

how much do you weigh now?

cheers steve

warchild · 01-11-2004, 08:12 AM

Cheers for your help Steve.

I am 14 stone at the moment and I am bulking quite well so hope to be up to around 14.5 even 15 by xmas, obviously a lot of this will be fat and water.

This may not seem too heavy but I am 5'10" and have a light bone structure, my wrists are 6".

I hate cardio and keep it to a mimimum, basically just 15 minutes before training. Do I really have to do this twice a day for 45 minutes or can I do it just with diet?

Thanks

Dan

Anonymous · 01-11-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

am 14 stone at the moment and I am bulking quite well so hope to be up to around 14.5 even 15 by xmas, obviously a lot of this will be fat and water

thats good, some of it will be muscle,

start off with just the diet and 1 cardio session a week.30 minutes after a couple of weeks up it to about 2 x30 minutes.

then see how you feel, doing too much cardio with out alot of carbs will make you feel weak and sick.

monitor your progress, the more leaner you get the more cardio you may want to do, but just dont end up like a stick insect.

too much cardio will just over do it,

and alway keep your protein intake high,this is very important.

i think 2x45 minues a day is way to much, what do you think about this?

Benji · 01-11-2004, 06:33 PM

I'd recon a 45 mins cardio before breakfast in the morning every other day would be enough!

warchild · 02-11-2004, 08:24 AM

Is there a definate difference in doing carido in the morning? for example will morning cardio get you in 5 weeks where evening cardio would get you in 8 or so?

Anonymous · 02-11-2004, 10:45 AM

i think you will have to find out what works best for you,, ive always done it in the morning and had good results from it.... tried it in the evening a few times,couldnt really hack it, i work nights anyway so my day is alot different to most peoples.

when was you planning to do it.?

warchild · 02-11-2004, 12:55 PM

I have tried doing cardio 1st thing around 5:30 before i set off to work but i find it very difficult to make myself get out of bed and do it. I think I managed it once. The pain I can compare it to is a tuna shake.

I hate cardio at the best of times, but 1st thing really is a none starter for me, its the only time that i am lazy.

Weekends though would be fine for the morning cardio after 45 minutes of waking up.

22-10-2004, 04:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
warchild Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: yorkshire Posts: 52 Rep Power:	When to cut up Being the vain boy that I am, I like to look good for the summer. After eating and bulking into a fat boy, when would you say is a good time to change things and start cutting up. At the moment in the right light you can see my six pack, i anticipate by xmas I should have a keg with no cans in sight. I have no idea about body fat % but my waist is 33" and expanding. It normally is around 31.5". Any advice is greatly appreciated. Cheers Dan

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Benji Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 184 Rep Power:	I'd recon a 45 mins cardio before breakfast in the morning every other day would be enough! ______________________ Benj

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29-10-2004, 11:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	hello warchild, give youself 12-16 weeks to cut up if your a natural, this way you will keep mpst of your hard earned muscle,that you gained while bulking. try and do it to quick and you will lose muscle badly. if you want to be cut by june, start cutting four months before, have you used eca?

30-10-2004, 11:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
warchild Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: yorkshire Posts: 52 Rep Power:	Hi Steve, I have never tried eca, just after xmas last year my gym had some lean system 7 for 20. I tried it for the full course and it was a waste of time. I would like just for once in my life to be totally ripped just to know that I could do it. My favourite part of training is lifting the heavy (to me) weights, this is what gives me the buzz and coming back for more. For the 16 week dieting cycle will I still be able to lift heavy or do I have to go for light weights and high reps? How easy is it to keep up with the dieting etc for 3 to 4 months? Cheers Dan

30-10-2004, 01:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	yeah lean system 7, is probably no good, as it dont contain ephedra/ephedrine. doug from extreme nutrition has some real good fatburners. yeah still lift heavy,even keep the same routine... you may need to adjust slightly,..this is where alot of people make the mistake,and change to light weights.and just canobilise the muscles. you will find you will lose some strnegth,it usually starts after you have lost about a stone. but try and keep this to a minimum. the dieting will be one of the hardest thing you will ever do,and for 3-4 months it will seem like forever. what you need to do, is lower your carb intake each week, only by aliitle bit, try not to have any cheat meals at all.and take a eca stack. how much do you weigh now? cheers steve

01-11-2004, 08:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
warchild Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: yorkshire Posts: 52 Rep Power:	Cheers for your help Steve. I am 14 stone at the moment and I am bulking quite well so hope to be up to around 14.5 even 15 by xmas, obviously a lot of this will be fat and water. This may not seem too heavy but I am 5'10" and have a light bone structure, my wrists are 6". I hate cardio and keep it to a mimimum, basically just 15 minutes before training. Do I really have to do this twice a day for 45 minutes or can I do it just with diet? Thanks Dan

02-11-2004, 08:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
warchild Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: yorkshire Posts: 52 Rep Power:	Is there a definate difference in doing carido in the morning? for example will morning cardio get you in 5 weeks where evening cardio would get you in 8 or so?

02-11-2004, 10:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	i think you will have to find out what works best for you,, ive always done it in the morning and had good results from it.... tried it in the evening a few times,couldnt really hack it, i work nights anyway so my day is alot different to most peoples. when was you planning to do it.?

02-11-2004, 12:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
warchild Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: yorkshire Posts: 52 Rep Power:	I have tried doing cardio 1st thing around 5:30 before i set off to work but i find it very difficult to make myself get out of bed and do it. I think I managed it once. The pain I can compare it to is a tuna shake. I hate cardio at the best of times, but 1st thing really is a none starter for me, its the only time that i am lazy. Weekends though would be fine for the morning cardio after 45 minutes of waking up.