Cheat Days?

Snake47 · 25-06-2004, 10:14 AM

HI. I was wondering if having on junk binge a week would kill your progress. I have a fast metabolism (not rocket but fast enough) and if i have one, say, a chinese buffet, i will diet the next day. It gets rid of the excess carbs and fat stored but i suppose it takes up 2 days training. I was thinking of changing it to one day a month where i eat what i want, not binging the whole day but just not being strict. What are all of your thoughts on junk days, also, would one beer a week really make a difference. I read some info on alcohol and now i am really paranoid.
Thank You

tissue · 25-06-2004, 10:28 AM

personaly m8t i thin its finde to have a rest off your strickt diet once a week if u hve to i sometimes do but dont go crazy and as for beer ect well i dnt drink really i will whent its say a m8ts b day or christmas or new year ect and i dnt think its that bad to drink i no 1 guy down the gym drinks like some times 6 pints of beer and hes massive and fully muscular ok his six oack is really good but had a bit of fat but who cares lol :P

hope this helps

vinger · 25-06-2004, 02:03 PM

personally i think cheat days are a bad idea. If u want to eat something you know you shouldnt, fine, eat it or dont.

But actually planning a day in the week where u know ure gonna eat shit, that cant be good.

As for beer, 1 a week is nothing. Im a piss can, as is my training partner. Were progressing along nicely. Everyones different i suppose.

Benj · 25-06-2004, 04:32 PM

You say you have a fast metabolism? So why does it really matter, eating whatever once in a while is not really going to make much effect in the long run!

I eat like shit all the time, aslong as your getting enough protein and carbs throughout the day so that your body doesn't go into a catabolic state, then its not really going to effect you!

Now if your trying to cut, thats another matter!

Drinking apparently causes eastrogen to be produced! Not too good! But IMO a couple of pints are gonna do shite all! Its when your drinking most nights or getting paraletic every weekend and messing up a days worth of eating thats when you should be getting worried!

Gail · 25-06-2004, 05:05 PM

I tend to be really strict all week, then less strict at weekends. If I want a beer or a glass of wine, I'll go for it. I'll go for a meal, but I don't blow out for the hell of it. I'll eat until i'm no longer hungry, and won't go for the three courses - that would be plain GREEEEEDY! I think its important to be a bit slacker now and then otherwise you can get really p*ssed off with it all. Training is really important to me, but hey, we all need a release now and then. ENJOY!!

Anonymous · 25-06-2004, 07:30 PM

i do agree, but now i am very strict with the diet.

hey summer is here(well if we have any)

gotta be in awesome shape,thats what we bodybuilders do.

i find if i cheat,i feel like shit,i personally get better gains if i am consistence.

but yeah,everyone to there own.

ive heard brandy helps lose water,and bring out defintion.

anyone no anything on this

Snake47 · 25-06-2004, 10:48 PM

Thanks for the help peeps. I think I will relax up a bit on the drinking but just a bit. Although i might like one day a year to get hammered, i guess 1 day out of 365 aint gonna make a diff.

tissue · 26-06-2004, 02:14 PM

tld u my 4 months without bozze was finished tonight i had 2 bottle of carling last night but i dnt think it will hve any effect on training hving 2 bottles

Anonymous · 26-06-2004, 09:37 PM

bump to Steve - I also heard brandy pre contest was sposed to increase vascularity - not sure how tho - just makes me v pink and has the ability to make me smoke cigars and walk into things!!!

A cheat meal evary so often (when you're in Kcal defecit) will probably 'kick start' your metabolism into burning more fat as the cheat meal will 'flood' your body with carbs/fat and theoretically use these to replenish and fuel your muscles / metabolism.

But to be honest, I went into Kcal defecit last summer with a keto diet and as soon as I had serious carbs/fat in the same meal I felt like twelve bags of shit that had been kicked around a car park for the afternoon - not pleasant, bloated, skinny, fat, hungry, full all at the same time. It was weird!

Snake47 · 27-06-2004, 03:00 PM

At the moment i am trying to add muscle. I know that if i am bulking i shouldn't be so strict as i can cut up when the time comes and the idea behind adding mass is having extra cals anyway but i a damn frightened of getting fat.
A couple of years ago i was obese and it was ****ing horrible so through an insane amount of cardio and a stupid calorie deficit i lost 8 stone in four months but also lost a lot of strength. Not only was it horrible being fat because of how nasty i looked at the time and how people treated me but i don't want to lose a massive amount of quality mass if i have to cut again. I suppose i may have built a little complex about being fat but my highest weight was 21stone, i was like Marlon Brandon with Biceps. Now i Maintain a lean figure while building but i have got to say, GAINS ARE SLOW!
Maybe someone can help me with my complex or give me info on what body-fat percentage i can get to while bulking before hitting the breaks.

25-06-2004, 10:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Snake47 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 36 Rep Power:	Cheat Days? HI. I was wondering if having on junk binge a week would kill your progress. I have a fast metabolism (not rocket but fast enough) and if i have one, say, a chinese buffet, i will diet the next day. It gets rid of the excess carbs and fat stored but i suppose it takes up 2 days training. I was thinking of changing it to one day a month where i eat what i want, not binging the whole day but just not being strict. What are all of your thoughts on junk days, also, would one beer a week really make a difference. I read some info on alcohol and now i am really paranoid. Thank You

25-06-2004, 04:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Benj Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Uk - North West Posts: 289 Rep Power:	You say you have a fast metabolism? So why does it really matter, eating whatever once in a while is not really going to make much effect in the long run! I eat like shit all the time, aslong as your getting enough protein and carbs throughout the day so that your body doesn't go into a catabolic state, then its not really going to effect you! Now if your trying to cut, thats another matter! Drinking apparently causes eastrogen to be produced! Not too good! But IMO a couple of pints are gonna do shite all! Its when your drinking most nights or getting paraletic every weekend and messing up a days worth of eating thats when you should be getting worried! ______________________ Benj

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25-06-2004, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
tissue Making Progress Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 421 Rep Power:	personaly m8t i thin its finde to have a rest off your strickt diet once a week if u hve to i sometimes do but dont go crazy and as for beer ect well i dnt drink really i will whent its say a m8ts b day or christmas or new year ect and i dnt think its that bad to drink i no 1 guy down the gym drinks like some times 6 pints of beer and hes massive and fully muscular ok his six oack is really good but had a bit of fat but who cares lol :P hope this helps

25-06-2004, 02:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	personally i think cheat days are a bad idea. If u want to eat something you know you shouldnt, fine, eat it or dont. But actually planning a day in the week where u know ure gonna eat shit, that cant be good. As for beer, 1 a week is nothing. Im a piss can, as is my training partner. Were progressing along nicely. Everyones different i suppose.

25-06-2004, 05:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gail Making Progress Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 147 Rep Power:	I tend to be really strict all week, then less strict at weekends. If I want a beer or a glass of wine, I'll go for it. I'll go for a meal, but I don't blow out for the hell of it. I'll eat until i'm no longer hungry, and won't go for the three courses - that would be plain GREEEEEDY! I think its important to be a bit slacker now and then otherwise you can get really p*ssed off with it all. Training is really important to me, but hey, we all need a release now and then. ENJOY!!

25-06-2004, 07:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	i do agree, but now i am very strict with the diet. hey summer is here(well if we have any) gotta be in awesome shape,thats what we bodybuilders do. i find if i cheat,i feel like shit,i personally get better gains if i am consistence. but yeah,everyone to there own. ive heard brandy helps lose water,and bring out defintion. anyone no anything on this

25-06-2004, 10:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Snake47 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 36 Rep Power:	Thanks for the help peeps. I think I will relax up a bit on the drinking but just a bit. Although i might like one day a year to get hammered, i guess 1 day out of 365 aint gonna make a diff.

26-06-2004, 02:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
tissue Making Progress Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 421 Rep Power:	tld u my 4 months without bozze was finished tonight i had 2 bottle of carling last night but i dnt think it will hve any effect on training hving 2 bottles

26-06-2004, 09:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	bump to Steve - I also heard brandy pre contest was sposed to increase vascularity - not sure how tho - just makes me v pink and has the ability to make me smoke cigars and walk into things!!! A cheat meal evary so often (when you're in Kcal defecit) will probably 'kick start' your metabolism into burning more fat as the cheat meal will 'flood' your body with carbs/fat and theoretically use these to replenish and fuel your muscles / metabolism. But to be honest, I went into Kcal defecit last summer with a keto diet and as soon as I had serious carbs/fat in the same meal I felt like twelve bags of shit that had been kicked around a car park for the afternoon - not pleasant, bloated, skinny, fat, hungry, full all at the same time. It was weird!

27-06-2004, 03:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Snake47 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 36 Rep Power:	At the moment i am trying to add muscle. I know that if i am bulking i shouldn't be so strict as i can cut up when the time comes and the idea behind adding mass is having extra cals anyway but i a damn frightened of getting fat. A couple of years ago i was obese and it was ****ing horrible so through an insane amount of cardio and a stupid calorie deficit i lost 8 stone in four months but also lost a lot of strength. Not only was it horrible being fat because of how nasty i looked at the time and how people treated me but i don't want to lose a massive amount of quality mass if i have to cut again. I suppose i may have built a little complex about being fat but my highest weight was 21stone, i was like Marlon Brandon with Biceps. Now i Maintain a lean figure while building but i have got to say, GAINS ARE SLOW! Maybe someone can help me with my complex or give me info on what body-fat percentage i can get to while bulking before hitting the breaks.