Need help with cutting

LAC · 10-04-2004, 04:35 PM

Hi guys,
I need some help with my diet. Im 26 male, 5,7" 11Stone 4lb and about 15% body fat last time i checked. I want some help with my diet as i want to really tone and cut my physique for the summer.

I train 3 times a week, weights and cardio. Take Thermbol fat burner 3 times a day, multi vitamine in the morning and vit B. I also take fish oil.

My problem is meals, i want to try for 5, 6 meals a day but i need some ideas on what i should be eating to cut. If anyone could give me an idea of what to eat for each meal id be eternally greatful.

Sorry the post is a bit long guys and thanks in advance for any help you can give.

TJ · 10-04-2004, 05:37 PM

LAC,

Welcome to the board, your post isnt long mate.

Drop your carbs, but not to much (if you do you will find you dont have enough energy to train hard and your body will then turn to Protein to fuel its self and you dont want this.

What are you eating at the moment? Are getting enough lean protein? and what about good quality carbs? Fat should remain low and come mainly from your fish oil and flaxseed oil (good fats).

Musclehed · 11-04-2004, 05:53 PM

Hey bud,

Just follow a few basic rules

1) eat 5/6 meals a day
2) Have only protein and fat meals!!!! (NO CARBS), except PWO, and morning if you feel a little fatigued
3) PWO, protein (50grams) and simple carb (dextrose/maltodextrin)
4) Low intensity cardio in the morning before breakfast (45mins)
5) Maybe some High intensity cardio thrown in the evening

Read this

http://t-mag.com/html/body_83diet.html

If this interests you, read this

http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/243tdawg2.html

Good luck, post with any questions

LAC · 11-04-2004, 06:24 PM

Cheers guys for your replys im currently reading the above mentioned articles but im sure ill have a few more questions to ask. I hate count the calories etc and am basically looking for someone to say here is a diet, eat this and do cardio and the fat will burn.

Ill read the articles and let you know what im gonna do, then maybe you guys can give me some feed back. Thanks again

Anonymous · 11-04-2004, 06:56 PM

welcome to musclechat board LAC

high protein low carbs,no junk food

will give u the goals u want mate.

try to lose 2lb a week,this way most of what u lose will be fat.

anymore questions just ask

LAC · 11-04-2004, 07:13 PM

Ok guys i read the articles that Musclehed mentioned and my brain just exploded. Its so complicated. I know you guys put a lot of research into your training but is there any chance of someone showing me like a 7 day eating plan. So i have a rough idea of what i should be eating and meal sizes. I might also have an idea of how much you can cheat on cheat days then.

IanUK · 11-04-2004, 09:56 PM

Base your meals on simple principles, how strict you want to be with your diet etc. I dont believe in cheat meals, the best time to eat any shitty stuff if you have too is right after training and less of it will be stored as fat that normal.

Eat good complex carbs and not too many, avoid potatoes and bread and try wholewheat pasta and rice in moderation and porridge oats are ok in the morning.

Plenty of protein its the building blocks, meats, fish, simple protein shakes.

Lots of water to raise your metabolism.

Try an ephedrine stack, these seem to work for most people. I think steve had some at one point.

Good luck bro

LAC · 13-04-2004, 03:24 PM

Hello again guys,

Ive just spent ages putting this post together. Below are my two plans for my Cutting Diet. I will be eating PLAN A on Mon,Weds,Fri and B on Tues and Thurs. On Sat and Sundays i am going to eat healthy but might have a Sunday Roast etc. So how does this eating plan look is it any good??? It looks like far too much food for someone trying to loose weight, should i be eating as much as i do not but making my 3 meals a day smaller and into 5 ?. What dressing can i use on my Pasta and salads??

Ok guys tell me what you think, i appreciate your comments and remember this is my 1st attempt at a cutting diet so its probably not very good

PLAN A
7AM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Cardio 30 mins

7.30AM Multi Vitamin
Vitamin B
Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg
Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk

10.30AM 1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange)
Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta

12.30PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol)
Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg
Tuna + 2 slices wholemeal brown bread
1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange)

3.30PM Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta

5.30PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol)
Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg
Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or
Pasta with salad or Veg

8PM Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese

10PM Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk

PLAN B

7.30AM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol)
Multi Vitamin
Vitamin B
Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg
Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk

10.30AM 1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange)
Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta

12.30PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol)
Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg
Chicken + 2 slices wholemeal brown bread
1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange)

3.30PM Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta

4.45PM Train(Weights)

5.30PM Post Workout Shake (Maximuscle MRP)

6PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol)
Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg
Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or
Pasta with salad or Veg

8.30PM Martial Arts Training

10.30PM Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk

IanUK · 13-04-2004, 10:16 PM

Looks ok mate but i wouldnt have any carbs after the 5.30 meal, what are you putting on the tuna?

I would leave out the cheerios and replace them with either porridge or scrabbled eggs or something similar, if you have to have cereal try and have bran flakes.

For your fruit dont have anymore than one banana a day.

also roast dinners arent unhealthy particularily and are good for protein and veg so i say go for it, there also damn nice food

LAC · 13-04-2004, 11:29 PM

Cheers Ian

Roast dinners are ace i love em, maybe i could have five of them a day lol.
I dont put anything on my tuna i have it dry, what can i put on my tuna or use as a salad dressing?

Im currently on the 3 meals a day normal person diet, im starting this 5 meals a day from monday. Should i be eating the same amount as i am now but just spread it over 5 meals or do i need to eat less?

Oh by the way are frozen vegetables any good i was gonna get them for easy of use, but do they still have the goodness in them and whats the best way to cook them?

10-04-2004, 04:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
LAC Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Need help with cutting Hi guys, I need some help with my diet. Im 26 male, 5,7" 11Stone 4lb and about 15% body fat last time i checked. I want some help with my diet as i want to really tone and cut my physique for the summer. I train 3 times a week, weights and cardio. Take Thermbol fat burner 3 times a day, multi vitamine in the morning and vit B. I also take fish oil. My problem is meals, i want to try for 5, 6 meals a day but i need some ideas on what i should be eating to cut. If anyone could give me an idea of what to eat for each meal id be eternally greatful. Sorry the post is a bit long guys and thanks in advance for any help you can give.

11-04-2004, 09:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Base your meals on simple principles, how strict you want to be with your diet etc. I dont believe in cheat meals, the best time to eat any shitty stuff if you have too is right after training and less of it will be stored as fat that normal. Eat good complex carbs and not too many, avoid potatoes and bread and try wholewheat pasta and rice in moderation and porridge oats are ok in the morning. Plenty of protein its the building blocks, meats, fish, simple protein shakes. Lots of water to raise your metabolism. Try an ephedrine stack, these seem to work for most people. I think steve had some at one point. Good luck bro ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

13-04-2004, 10:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
IanUK Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Looks ok mate but i wouldnt have any carbs after the 5.30 meal, what are you putting on the tuna? I would leave out the cheerios and replace them with either porridge or scrabbled eggs or something similar, if you have to have cereal try and have bran flakes. For your fruit dont have anymore than one banana a day. also roast dinners arent unhealthy particularily and are good for protein and veg so i say go for it, there also damn nice food ______________________ You can never have enough protein!

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10-04-2004, 05:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
TJ Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Gym Posts: 269 Rep Power:	LAC, Welcome to the board, your post isnt long mate. Drop your carbs, but not to much (if you do you will find you dont have enough energy to train hard and your body will then turn to Protein to fuel its self and you dont want this. What are you eating at the moment? Are getting enough lean protein? and what about good quality carbs? Fat should remain low and come mainly from your fish oil and flaxseed oil (good fats).

11-04-2004, 05:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Musclehed Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power:	Hey bud, Just follow a few basic rules 1) eat 5/6 meals a day 2) Have only protein and fat meals!!!! (NO CARBS), except PWO, and morning if you feel a little fatigued 3) PWO, protein (50grams) and simple carb (dextrose/maltodextrin) 4) Low intensity cardio in the morning before breakfast (45mins) 5) Maybe some High intensity cardio thrown in the evening Read this http://t-mag.com/html/body_83diet.html If this interests you, read this http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/243tdawg2.html Good luck, post with any questions

11-04-2004, 06:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
LAC Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Cheers guys for your replys im currently reading the above mentioned articles but im sure ill have a few more questions to ask. I hate count the calories etc and am basically looking for someone to say here is a diet, eat this and do cardio and the fat will burn. Ill read the articles and let you know what im gonna do, then maybe you guys can give me some feed back. Thanks again

11-04-2004, 06:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	welcome to musclechat board LAC high protein low carbs,no junk food will give u the goals u want mate. try to lose 2lb a week,this way most of what u lose will be fat. anymore questions just ask

11-04-2004, 07:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
LAC Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Ok guys i read the articles that Musclehed mentioned and my brain just exploded. Its so complicated. I know you guys put a lot of research into your training but is there any chance of someone showing me like a 7 day eating plan. So i have a rough idea of what i should be eating and meal sizes. I might also have an idea of how much you can cheat on cheat days then.

13-04-2004, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
LAC Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Hello again guys, Ive just spent ages putting this post together. Below are my two plans for my Cutting Diet. I will be eating PLAN A on Mon,Weds,Fri and B on Tues and Thurs. On Sat and Sundays i am going to eat healthy but might have a Sunday Roast etc. So how does this eating plan look is it any good??? It looks like far too much food for someone trying to loose weight, should i be eating as much as i do not but making my 3 meals a day smaller and into 5 ?. What dressing can i use on my Pasta and salads?? Ok guys tell me what you think, i appreciate your comments and remember this is my 1st attempt at a cutting diet so its probably not very good PLAN A 7AM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Cardio 30 mins 7.30AM Multi Vitamin Vitamin B Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk 10.30AM 1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange) Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta 12.30PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg Tuna + 2 slices wholemeal brown bread 1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange) 3.30PM Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta 5.30PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta with salad or Veg 8PM Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese 10PM Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk PLAN B 7.30AM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Multi Vitamin Vitamin B Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk 10.30AM 1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange) Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta 12.30PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg Chicken + 2 slices wholemeal brown bread 1 piece of fruit (Apple,Banana,Orange) 3.30PM Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta 4.45PM Train(Weights) 5.30PM Post Workout Shake (Maximuscle MRP) 6PM Fat Burner (Maximuscle Thermobol) Omega 3 Capsule 1000mg Tuna or Chicken or Cottage Cheese with Brown rice or Pasta with salad or Veg 8.30PM Martial Arts Training 10.30PM Bowl of Cheerios Cereal with skimmed milk

13-04-2004, 11:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
LAC Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Cheers Ian Roast dinners are ace i love em, maybe i could have five of them a day lol. I dont put anything on my tuna i have it dry, what can i put on my tuna or use as a salad dressing? Im currently on the 3 meals a day normal person diet, im starting this 5 meals a day from monday. Should i be eating the same amount as i am now but just spread it over 5 meals or do i need to eat less? Oh by the way are frozen vegetables any good i was gonna get them for easy of use, but do they still have the goodness in them and whats the best way to cook them?