kickboxing or tawkwondo?

Vale-Tudo · 15-06-2006, 06:50 PM

there is one thing everyonei sforgetting here with regards to being a good fighter, adrenalin exposure. if you dont train in realistic and live situations 99% of people will not have a clue what to do in the street when it kicks off.
hence why i have seen excellent martial artists get hammered by jimmy the maddo from down the road countless times.

slimjim · 18-09-2006, 04:13 PM

IMO:

the best skill you can have for self defence is awareness, to be aware of your surroundings and 'who' is near you.

You get one bloke giving you grief right in you face, you defend yourself against him, while his mate(s) who you hadn't noticed kick the shit outer you.

I did I.T.F Taekwon-do for many years - and if I knew what I know now - I'd never do it, it's crap, but as a sport for scoring points it's fine, want to do something with flashy kicks, it's fine. To defend yourself you don't have to kick any higher than the knee joint, take some ones knee out, they aint going anywhere fast!

Aikido's great, but no good for guys with muscles, when you've spent years building your muscles up, it's very hard not use them to grab someone and put them down, Aikido's all about using your opponents strength and aggression against them, then you throw them into the ground! some of the wrist and arm locks are really quite nasty.. and believe me, a lot of you big fellers wouldn't last too long with some one who's proficient at Aikido.

Now.... Muay Thai, there's something if you want to defend yourself, others may disagree - it's nasty, you'll learn how to take a few punches. Most of their kick are low chopping kicks to the thigh area (Knees for self defence.) + boxing techniques + clinching work + knee's to the body and head.

The only problem with any kind of grappling or wrestling in a street situation is that when you're on the floor you're just too vulnerable to further attack...

..sprinting... there's a good form of self defence.....

mrdeadlifter · 28-09-2006, 11:36 PM

i am a muay thai fighter, i train hard and i regularly spar with fighters from other disciplines.

i have to say that kickboxing and muay thai differ.
someone said that muay thai with rules is no elbows, knees etc. actually it depends which rules the fight is set to.

i think kickboxing and tkd both have good features. but i favour true muay thai which includes a full inventory of close-up methods for dispatching the opponent.

in a street fight as slim jim rightly points out, sprinting is the best defence. pride will get you killed.

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15-06-2006, 06:50 PM	#51 (permalink)
Vale-Tudo Musclechat Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 39 Rep Power:	there is one thing everyonei sforgetting here with regards to being a good fighter, adrenalin exposure. if you dont train in realistic and live situations 99% of people will not have a clue what to do in the street when it kicks off. hence why i have seen excellent martial artists get hammered by jimmy the maddo from down the road countless times.

18-09-2006, 04:13 PM	#52 (permalink)
slimjim Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 127 Rep Power:	IMO: the best skill you can have for self defence is awareness, to be aware of your surroundings and 'who' is near you. You get one bloke giving you grief right in you face, you defend yourself against him, while his mate(s) who you hadn't noticed kick the shit outer you. I did I.T.F Taekwon-do for many years - and if I knew what I know now - I'd never do it, it's crap, but as a sport for scoring points it's fine, want to do something with flashy kicks, it's fine. To defend yourself you don't have to kick any higher than the knee joint, take some ones knee out, they aint going anywhere fast! Aikido's great, but no good for guys with muscles, when you've spent years building your muscles up, it's very hard not use them to grab someone and put them down, Aikido's all about using your opponents strength and aggression against them, then you throw them into the ground! some of the wrist and arm locks are really quite nasty.. and believe me, a lot of you big fellers wouldn't last too long with some one who's proficient at Aikido. Now.... Muay Thai, there's something if you want to defend yourself, others may disagree - it's nasty, you'll learn how to take a few punches. Most of their kick are low chopping kicks to the thigh area (Knees for self defence.) + boxing techniques + clinching work + knee's to the body and head. The only problem with any kind of grappling or wrestling in a street situation is that when you're on the floor you're just too vulnerable to further attack... ..sprinting... there's a good form of self defence.....

28-09-2006, 11:36 PM	#53 (permalink)
mrdeadlifter Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power:	i am a muay thai fighter, i train hard and i regularly spar with fighters from other disciplines. i have to say that kickboxing and muay thai differ. someone said that muay thai with rules is no elbows, knees etc. actually it depends which rules the fight is set to. i think kickboxing and tkd both have good features. but i favour true muay thai which includes a full inventory of close-up methods for dispatching the opponent. in a street fight as slim jim rightly points out, sprinting is the best defence. pride will get you killed.