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Old 02-04-2008, 06:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've read certain things here and there and it seems as though some of it is conflicting.

Seems as though protein shakes should be different throughout the day. Now I am a beginner, ectomorph, and weigh 175lbs.

I only use one scoop which is 24 grams of protein, is this enough? Granted I need a certain amount of protein through the day correlating to my body weight but it seems as some people load up on protein at certain times of the day, should I be doing that?

Morning I have one scoop with water and have my breakfast also. Is this enough whey after sleeping 6 to 8 hours?

Preworkout, I eat tuna and rice 45 minutes to an hour before workout. Is this okay? Seems as some have whey right before they workout, but don't I need the carbs for energy? Or the protein will be used for energy correct?

After working out, I have heard conflicting things. Not to have carbs immediately, and have more whey than normal. Right now I take one scoop (24grams) and water. Specifically water because won't milk slow the protein absorption? Then I eat an hour later.

Before bed, right now i take one scoop whey, and quarter cup of oats and a quarter cup of flax seed and grind them in a coffee grinder and mix it with milk. I just ordered casein for the first time and I will be using this before bed instead of the whey.

Note: This isn't my diet, but specific concerns on protein shakes. I just ordered casein for the first time and will use that before bed and I plan on using oats and flax with all my shakes from now on, except after working out???? Once I get the casein I'm pretty much eliminating milk. My body doesnt process it too well.

Thanks for the help guys.

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Even after I get the casein, how much whey should I take in the morning? THanks again!!

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Default Re: some sporadic questions on shakes mostly

I'd say the serving of 24g whey is fine. I doubt your body can digest much more than that in one go anyway. If you were an AAS user then yes having more protein in one serving would be worth while however for yourself I would say this is fine.
You are also right to take the PWO shake with water and not milk. Remember shakes are only there to supplement your diet not to be in place of good quality protein you could get through a good diet.
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I only use one scoop which is 24 grams of protein, is this enough? Granted I need a certain amount of protein through the day correlating to my body weight but it seems as some people load up on protein at certain times of the day, should I be doing that?
You could just have 1 scoop, in reality for you this is probably not enough. Put in a scoop and a half! I put 2 myself and im 180lbs.

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Morning I have one scoop with water and have my breakfast also. Is this enough whey after sleeping 6 to 8 hours?
This is fine, as your getting protein from your breakfast as well! (Have eggs in the morning with some oats as well as whey)

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Preworkout, I eat tuna and rice 45 minutes to an hour before workout. Is this okay? Seems as some have whey right before they workout, but don't I need the carbs for energy? Or the protein will be used for energy correct?
You absolutely 100% need carbs pre-workout! I recommend using something like waxy maize starch or maltodextrin. If you cant be bothered to use those then use corn flour or honey! You need the carbs to top up your glycogen stores. Try eating that rice and tuna about an hour or two before instead and having a pre-workout (protein/carbs) shake min 30> mins before training.

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Before bed, right now i take one scoop whey, and quarter cup of oats and a quarter cup of flax seed and grind them in a coffee grinder and mix it with milk. I just ordered casein for the first time and I will be using this before bed instead of the whey.
Yeah casein is good as you need a slow digest protein over night. But you could just eat a tub of cottage cheese and some tuna. But casein powder is fine.


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After working out, I have heard conflicting things. Not to have carbs immediately, and have more whey than normal. Right now I take one scoop (24grams) and water. Specifically water because won't milk slow the protein absorption? Then I eat an hour later.
You need carbs here more then ever especially if your training the next day! You want protein (not forgetting you need to create and insulin spike here). I recommend using well over a scoop. And milk is fine! As then your giving yourself a nice micellar (slow release) protein as well.

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Note: This isn't my diet, but specific concerns on protein shakes. I just ordered casein for the first time and will use that before bed and I plan on using oats and flax with all my shakes from now on, except after working out???? Once I get the casein I'm pretty much eliminating milk. My body doesnt process it too well.
If your lactose intolerant then avoid using too much milk and stick with water! Yeah flax is ok but id rather just use an omega 3 supplement but flax is fine.

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