Example Cutting and Bulking diets

Chell · 30-05-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slimbob

unlike Young gun who can tolerate carbs well I do beter on fat . My diet is shock horror 60% fat 30% protein and 10 % carbs

protein spread throughout day whey in morning tuna, beef , and other soid sources through day and casein at night . Carbs in morning and post workout but not much and fat is mixed into salads throughtout the day (ie) extra vigin olive oil I get a great one from GetOily .com direct from Italy , tastes great and def is extra virgin labels arent always what they claim !!!

I have a day a week were a basically carb load and really hammer post workout nutrition . When bulking add fat and protein when cutting drop fat keep protein high very similar to Di Pasquales Metabolic Diet an d works great for me . The really good thing is my blood lipid profile is excellent even though I eat 60% fat !!!! high HDL low LDL low trig high HDL to LDLl and high HDL as % of total chol . Also overall chol is 4

Is anyone else out there a fat man so to speak .

Carbs are not as low as you Slim, but I have added the Holland & Barrett Optimum oil blend to my plan after reading it can help with fat loss.

I have 2-3tablspoons a day and has helped me reduce my bf% even more.

Just out of interest I use to buy Udo's oil and saw that Holland & Barrett did a very similar one and alot cheaper so I purchased some. Once home I compared the nutritional value and they look the same :shock: anyone else use this.??

Udo's I was paying £16:99 on the net, but H&B is £12:99 and sometimes on offer at £6:99. great product even the packaging is similar!

slimbob · 30-05-2006, 11:39 PM

Hi

My fat intake comes from fish oil 2 tablespoons , evening primrose oil 1 tablespoon , udo choice 2 tablespoons

150 grams of extra virgin olive oil

remaining fat from solid protein sources (ie) fatty fish or lamb /beef etc

Dont really ever fry or heat my fats apart from cooking meat etc all other sources above are unheated and i imagine i have a very low trans fat intake, try to keep my 3 to6 ratio at about 1 to 2 or even 1 to 1 . My blood lipid profile improved very much from switching from my old normal diet to this so called unhealthy diet . But realise this diet would not suit everyone and even be harmfull to some !! getting blood work done is very imprtant when going on to a high fat diet to make sure your body can handel all that fat o.k

hope this helps

Nick500 · 30-05-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by slimbob

150 grams of extra virgin olive oil

Thats a hell of a lot !!

remember that olive oil is ~100% fat, so even though its an EFA its still a hell of a lot of fat.

Interesting stuff...

Nick

***PScarb*** · 31-05-2006, 09:53 AM

thought i would contribute to this thread..

this is my cutting diet:
Cardio = 45min 7.00am on empty stomach

Diet:
Meal 1:
6 whole eggs
Meal 2:
200g Chicken breast & salad + 1tsp olive oil + 5 extreme Glutamine capsules
Meal 3:
200g Chicken breast & salad + 1tsp olive oil + 5 extreme Glutamine capsules
Meal 4:
2 scoops Extreme Protein + 10ml Udo's + 15 extreme Glutamine capsules
Meal 5:
2 scoops Extreme Protein(PWO)
Meal 6:
250g Chicken breast & salad + 1tsp olive oil + 5 extreme Glutamine capsules

.........Cals ..Fats Carbs Prot
Totals 1948 .89g .16g ...285g

I use a carb cycling approach to my cutting diets which follows this cycle..

Mon = Low Carb
Tues = Low Carb
Wed = Med Carb
Thur = Low Carb
Fri = Low Carb
Sat = High Carb
Sun = Low Carb

the biggest diffrence is the amount of carbs and fats i consume as the carbs go down the fats go up....

i will post my bulking diet when i start it this weekend...

slimbob · 31-05-2006, 10:02 PM

yes it is a lot of fat , you are absolutely right extra virgin olive oil is all fat more or less (ie) 96-98% ) I like it because it is mainly mono which acts like a neutral energy source doesn t really adversley or positively effect blood lipids which is why I like it I calculate its efa content into my overall 3 to 6 balance and like mentioned try to get 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 regarding 6 to 3 . Plus olive trees are pretty hardy and therefore not many pesticides are used making extra virgin olive oil a great energy source if you can handel it . Please dont anyone do whatt i do with out first getting blood work done to monitor the effects on thier blood lipid s by changing diets . This works for me but wont for everyone !!!

cheers

Slimbob

mrmasive · 09-06-2006, 09:04 PM

Bump for later

trail_junkie69 · 22-06-2006, 06:03 PM

I notice you all mix protein with water, I useally use skim milk, is it a good idea to try and use water. Just love the taste better with milk. Guess you can get use to anything that you want.
How do you feel about protein bars in general, I know there are a sh*t load on the market, but sometimes its a quick easy snack or the go.

Nick500 · 22-06-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trail_junkie69

I notive you all mix protein with water, I useally use skim milk, is it a good idea to try and use water. Just love the taste better with milk. Guess you can get use to anything that you want.
How do you feel about protein bars in general, I know there are a sh*t load on the market, but sometimes its a quick easy snack or the go.

When mixing protein with water it is important to note that the aim in doing this is to absorb protein as quicly as possible. When combining with milk, the act of doing this will slow down the protein and is not ideal for post-training.

trail_junkie69 · 22-06-2006, 07:12 PM

I didn't know that, awesome, thanks, will start doing mixing with water.

What are some good nuts to eat, cause I love almonds, but I see that YG suggested eating something different.

Steve

flick161 · 11-09-2006, 03:59 PM

How long does this cutting diet go on for?

How much water are you meant to drink a week or two before the contest?

30-05-2006, 11:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
slimbob Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: merseyside Posts: 13 Rep Power:	fat Hi My fat intake comes from fish oil 2 tablespoons , evening primrose oil 1 tablespoon , udo choice 2 tablespoons 150 grams of extra virgin olive oil remaining fat from solid protein sources (ie) fatty fish or lamb /beef etc Dont really ever fry or heat my fats apart from cooking meat etc all other sources above are unheated and i imagine i have a very low trans fat intake, try to keep my 3 to6 ratio at about 1 to 2 or even 1 to 1 . My blood lipid profile improved very much from switching from my old normal diet to this so called unhealthy diet . But realise this diet would not suit everyone and even be harmfull to some !! getting blood work done is very imprtant when going on to a high fat diet to make sure your body can handel all that fat o.k hope this helps

31-05-2006, 10:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
slimbob Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Location: merseyside Posts: 13 Rep Power:	fat yes it is a lot of fat , you are absolutely right extra virgin olive oil is all fat more or less (ie) 96-98% ) I like it because it is mainly mono which acts like a neutral energy source doesn t really adversley or positively effect blood lipids which is why I like it I calculate its efa content into my overall 3 to 6 balance and like mentioned try to get 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 regarding 6 to 3 . Plus olive trees are pretty hardy and therefore not many pesticides are used making extra virgin olive oil a great energy source if you can handel it . Please dont anyone do whatt i do with out first getting blood work done to monitor the effects on thier blood lipid s by changing diets . This works for me but wont for everyone !!! cheers Slimbob

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31-05-2006, 09:53 AM	#24 (permalink)
*PScarb* Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 986 Rep Power:	thought i would contribute to this thread.. this is my cutting diet: Cardio = 45min 7.00am on empty stomach Diet: Meal 1: 6 whole eggs Meal 2: 200g Chicken breast & salad + 1tsp olive oil + 5 extreme Glutamine capsules Meal 3: 200g Chicken breast & salad + 1tsp olive oil + 5 extreme Glutamine capsules Meal 4: 2 scoops Extreme Protein + 10ml Udo's + 15 extreme Glutamine capsules Meal 5: 2 scoops Extreme Protein(PWO) Meal 6: 250g Chicken breast & salad + 1tsp olive oil + 5 extreme Glutamine capsules .........Cals ..Fats Carbs Prot Totals 1948 .89g .16g ...285g I use a carb cycling approach to my cutting diets which follows this cycle.. Mon = Low Carb Tues = Low Carb Wed = Med Carb Thur = Low Carb Fri = Low Carb Sat = High Carb Sun = Low Carb the biggest diffrence is the amount of carbs and fats i consume as the carbs go down the fats go up.... i will post my bulking diet when i start it this weekend...

09-06-2006, 09:04 PM	#26 (permalink)
mrmasive Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2 Rep Power:	Bump for later

22-06-2006, 06:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
trail_junkie69 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 16 Rep Power:	I notice you all mix protein with water, I useally use skim milk, is it a good idea to try and use water. Just love the taste better with milk. Guess you can get use to anything that you want. How do you feel about protein bars in general, I know there are a sh*t load on the market, but sometimes its a quick easy snack or the go.

22-06-2006, 07:12 PM	#29 (permalink)
trail_junkie69 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 16 Rep Power:	I didn't know that, awesome, thanks, will start doing mixing with water. What are some good nuts to eat, cause I love almonds, but I see that YG suggested eating something different. Steve

11-09-2006, 03:59 PM	#30 (permalink)
flick161 Under Construction Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power:	How long does this cutting diet go on for? How much water are you meant to drink a week or two before the contest?