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Default competing as a natty?

basically if youve done gear at anytime in your life does that prohibit you from competing natty?

and if not why not just lie about it?

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Old 15-10-2007, 12:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: competing as a natty?

From what I understand mate you just need to pass a drugs test on the day.

Someone else will prob be able to confirm it either way.

You thinking of competing?
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Default Re: competing as a natty?

This is something i have wondered about actually.

I wonder how natty a natty is aswel !!

Can things such as gh/ slin use be tested for ?

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Default Re: competing as a natty?

I believe that they can test for 'elevated levels'

Someone on here (I think?) did a post a while back I think about how natty a natty is - the 'natty scale' goes from passing a drug test to choosing not to use BCAAs/Creatine/Whey.
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Default Re: competing as a natty?

Yeah i believe ya dude, but can these things be tested for.

Athletes pass drug tests all the time and are pretty obviously on.

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Default Re: competing as a natty?

There is no test for GH/slin use so basically these 2 go undetected, these 2 go completly undetected. They cannot even detect elevated levels. Ive heard on one forum of a lie detector lol now id doubt you would pass that.


Ref to when a naty is a naty, well suppose its when someone has never touched drugs to aid there body's growth. You could be using gear for 5 years and then go 2 years clean and enter as a natty? sorry im not having it, that would be cheating.

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Default Re: competing as a natty?

They do contests for a certain amount of time clean.

Say 5 years clean or 10 years clean. Not sure how that works tho

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They do contests for a certain amount of time clean.

Say 5 years clean or 10 years clean. Not sure how that works tho
Thats right Bully - 5 years ish.

International Natural Bodybuilding Association (INBA)

And yes AliM - lie detectors too (Polygraph)

They appear to test for elevated levels of Test, I think other non Test drugs emit different chemicals into the urine/blood.

Interesting read.
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Default Re: competing as a natty?

if you have taken any form of performance enhancers in the past.. then your not natural and shouldnt compete as such.

each federation has its own rules on what is classed as natural (i.e. how long without taking anything) but i suppose the sport relies on honest people at the end of the day.

if your seriously thinking about it contact a rep from a federation via email and ask for guidance and where you would stand.

from this thread it seems the standard approach is how can i or others "cheat" and pass as naturals.. that takes away from a massive amount of hard work natural competitors put in!

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There is no test for GH/slin use so basically these 2 go undetected, these 2 go completly undetected. They cannot even detect elevated levels. Ive heard on one forum of a lie detector lol now id doubt you would pass that.
The chappy who runs the drug testing for the Tour De France was saying on BBC24/Worldwide they now could test for HGH/Slin/EPO but it was expensive - so maybe they aren't testing for it yet?

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Ref to when a naty is a naty, well suppose its when someone has never touched drugs to aid there body's growth. You could be using gear for 5 years and then go 2 years clean and enter as a natty? sorry im not having it, that would be cheating.
All athletes are supposed to be drug free (I'm excluding Bodybuilders who don't compete in natural competitions from this...) but alot of them aren't.

Housewives favourite Linford got caught, allegedly 16% of all British professional rugby players have been caught - and there is currently a huge debate as to whether given that everyone is doing it 'Is it actually cheating?'

But thats another story.
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