Went to SOUTH BRITAIN EFBB. ART ATWOOD as guest spot

zx9rjas. · 30-03-2005, 12:10 AM

Sunday night I and a few mates went to porstmouth guildhall to see the evening show of the EFBB south britain show. A few good people qualified for the Britain and there were a few good female fitness competitiors too....VERY FLEXIBLE :twisted:

Was a good show with a great turnout, Great atmosphere .

Also Art Atwood was guest spot and he looked big but not freakish on stage ...but then did a walk around the guildhall. I was stood right next to him and hes a big mo-fo (gut was big though but ripped, and was very out of breath)
He was just as deep as he was wide and his lats were ridiculous. Re-affirmed it for me that I never want to get that big though as he couldn't walk properly(due to leg size) and I want to stay mobile as I want to race bikes in the summer. That said Olympia size is not going to happen as I am not prepared to use/do what they use/do. Made me think that his best placing in the olympia was 12th so what are the others like :shock:

Did anyone else go?

30-03-2005, 01:45 PM

Who wants to be as big as the olympia guys?
LMAO, I'd be happy being as big as some of you guys on here!

tom84 · 30-03-2005, 05:03 PM

think I'd definately like to be more like the size of the olmpyia guys in the 70's. Some of those guys like Franco Columbo looked awesome. The guy who beat Mike Katz in the Mr. Universe on the pumping iron DVD I can't remember his name but he looked awesome aswell.
Think the modern day bodybuilders just look like freaks. I bodybuild to look good I'm not really bothered if there are bigger dudes than me or if i cant lift houses. When i get to 14 stone 8% bodyfat i'l be happy (im only 5 foot 8 so il be quite big). Theres no way id wana ruin my football by getting to massive and im trying to pull girls not intimidate the shit outta them.

zx9rjas. · 30-03-2005, 06:33 PM

Yeah Tom you are thinking of Ken Waller. He was a good size, bigger than most people. I like to be slightly bigger but proportioned slightly different. I think his legs and calves were lacking, as were his arms and shoulders.

http://clay_b8692.tripod.com/WallerKen/KWaller0020.jpg

http://clay_b8692.tripod.com/WallerKen/KWaller0005.jpg

http://clay_b8692.tripod.com/WallerKen/KWaller0004.jpg

I think for me this is what I am aiming for. Just about the right size and definition. Legs are not too big but big enough, for me I think the overall proportion is correct too. Samir was a great bodybuilder.

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...irbannout4.jpg

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...irbannout9.jpg

http://www.classicbodybuilders.co.uk/80s/bannout1.jpg

tom84 · 30-03-2005, 06:50 PM

yeah that was his name Ken Waller. Some of the universe contestants that year were crap like katz. He still had so much back fat. I think Kenny was the only one cut enough with a decent size.

tom84 · 30-03-2005, 06:57 PM

oh and yeah checked the pics we have pretty similar overall goals I think thats about how idaelly id wana look. I think ppl with a decent size but very low bodyfat are far more impressive to me and it seems like this to most ppl on most of the forums that im on, bulking is the easy bit. Its much easier to shovel food down ya neck than it is to do cardio 4 times a week, tired, coping mentally with strength loss and craving food all the time.

The bodybuilders of the 70's had a great shape and low bodyfat (obviously) but still looked human althou i have seen some great pics of lee priest recently.

BobBB · 13-08-2005, 03:17 AM

Great repot would have loved to have seen Art Atwwod. Whats all that about being too big hell this is BB aint it . Sure hope to get like that some day. Go to The Tower Gym in Edmonton here. Ant others looking for a workout partner?

GTForce · 13-08-2005, 08:55 AM

When I watched Pumping Iron with my wife (before we were married...I wanted her to know what she was in for. I plan on training for another 40 years!) she was impressed with Ken Waller. She also thought Franco Columbo should have beaten Arnold, and I can't say I disagree, Columbo looked awesome. I like the scene where Waller is playing some (American) football with Robby Robinson (another awesome build). It was also cool to see Columbo boxing and skipping. The bodybuilders of the 70's were a lot more athletic and there seemed to be more comraderie.

That said, this arguement is somewhat silly in the sense that so very few people even have the genetics to become as big as an Olympia competitor.

A lot of people who consult me about personal training will say "I don't want to get as big as the guys in the magazines, I just want tone".
Yeah, okay Arnie. We wouldn't want to have you lifting heavy weights because I'm sure you'll just explode overnight into 250 pounds of shredded muscle.

Hey bruiser, how about we try to get your arms over 15 inches then we can start worrying about getting "too big"

I do believe that one must strive for mass, because you can't carve a statue from a pebble. You need a large slab of rock to work with.

That said, once you have a descent, natural base you can go for even more mass, lots of cuts, or a combo. Athletic endevours should be considered as well, but keep in mind that it wasn't long ago that weightraining was seen as something that would adversely effect performance in sports. Now, every top athlete in every sport trains with weights to some degree. Weightlifting is the basis of any well-constructed fitness program. I always tell my clients that I am going to train them like bodybuilders, because bodybuilding is about shape, proportion, balance, muscle size and low levels of bodyfat. If they have a problem with that then I know a good yoga instructor looking for a few more clients

GTForce · 13-08-2005, 09:26 AM

zx9rjas, thanks for the link.

I saw Bannout when I was down in Venice. He is a personal trainer down there and he still looks great.

I always liked Bob Paris and Francis Benfatto. Another guy with a classic physique is Lee Labrada. I met him in Vegas when I went to the Olympia.
Very friendly, helpful, and a class act all the way. He is in his mid-forties but looks like he is about 35. He still is in great shape, his waist is no more than 30 inches.

Of today's competitors I like Ahmad Haidar because of his mid-section and overall balance. I also like Johnnie Jackson because he is so freaky strong. He is as strong as Coleman despite being 3 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter. At the pro show this year in Canada he was robbed. I do like Darrem Charles, and was glad to see him win the New York Pro, but Jackson should have won in Canada.
Check out his site : www.jojfitness.com
Very, very thick and powerful looking but nice lines as well.

zx9rjas. · 14-08-2005, 10:26 AM

Jackson looks great GT, nice physique.

J

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30-03-2005, 12:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
zx9rjas. Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power:	Went to SOUTH BRITAIN EFBB. ART ATWOOD as guest spot Sunday night I and a few mates went to porstmouth guildhall to see the evening show of the EFBB south britain show. A few good people qualified for the Britain and there were a few good female fitness competitiors too....VERY FLEXIBLE :twisted: Was a good show with a great turnout, Great atmosphere . Also Art Atwood was guest spot and he looked big but not freakish on stage ...but then did a walk around the guildhall. I was stood right next to him and hes a big mo-fo (gut was big though but ripped, and was very out of breath) He was just as deep as he was wide and his lats were ridiculous. Re-affirmed it for me that I never want to get that big though as he couldn't walk properly(due to leg size) and I want to stay mobile as I want to race bikes in the summer. That said Olympia size is not going to happen as I am not prepared to use/do what they use/do. Made me think that his best placing in the olympia was 12th so what are the others like :shock: Did anyone else go? ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above.

30-03-2005, 05:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	think I'd definately like to be more like the size of the olmpyia guys in the 70's. Some of those guys like Franco Columbo looked awesome. The guy who beat Mike Katz in the Mr. Universe on the pumping iron DVD I can't remember his name but he looked awesome aswell. Think the modern day bodybuilders just look like freaks. I bodybuild to look good I'm not really bothered if there are bigger dudes than me or if i cant lift houses. When i get to 14 stone 8% bodyfat i'l be happy (im only 5 foot 8 so il be quite big). Theres no way id wana ruin my football by getting to massive and im trying to pull girls not intimidate the shit outta them. ______________________ In This country you gotta make the money 1st, then when u get the money, u get the power, then when u get the power, u get the woman.

30-03-2005, 06:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
zx9rjas. Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power:	Yeah Tom you are thinking of Ken Waller. He was a good size, bigger than most people. I like to be slightly bigger but proportioned slightly different. I think his legs and calves were lacking, as were his arms and shoulders. http://clay_b8692.tripod.com/WallerKen/KWaller0020.jpg http://clay_b8692.tripod.com/WallerKen/KWaller0005.jpg http://clay_b8692.tripod.com/WallerKen/KWaller0004.jpg I think for me this is what I am aiming for. Just about the right size and definition. Legs are not too big but big enough, for me I think the overall proportion is correct too. Samir was a great bodybuilder. http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...irbannout4.jpg http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...irbannout9.jpg http://www.classicbodybuilders.co.uk/80s/bannout1.jpg ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above.

30-03-2005, 06:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	yeah that was his name Ken Waller. Some of the universe contestants that year were crap like katz. He still had so much back fat. I think Kenny was the only one cut enough with a decent size. ______________________ In This country you gotta make the money 1st, then when u get the money, u get the power, then when u get the power, u get the woman.

30-03-2005, 01:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Who wants to be as big as the olympia guys? LMAO, I'd be happy being as big as some of you guys on here!

30-03-2005, 06:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	oh and yeah checked the pics we have pretty similar overall goals I think thats about how idaelly id wana look. I think ppl with a decent size but very low bodyfat are far more impressive to me and it seems like this to most ppl on most of the forums that im on, bulking is the easy bit. Its much easier to shovel food down ya neck than it is to do cardio 4 times a week, tired, coping mentally with strength loss and craving food all the time. The bodybuilders of the 70's had a great shape and low bodyfat (obviously) but still looked human althou i have seen some great pics of lee priest recently. ______________________ In This country you gotta make the money 1st, then when u get the money, u get the power, then when u get the power, u get the woman.

13-08-2005, 03:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
BobBB Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power:	Re: Went to SOUTH BRITAIN EFBB. ART ATWOOD as guest spot Great repot would have loved to have seen Art Atwwod. Whats all that about being too big hell this is BB aint it . Sure hope to get like that some day. Go to The Tower Gym in Edmonton here. Ant others looking for a workout partner?

13-08-2005, 08:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
GTForce Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 198 Rep Power:	When I watched Pumping Iron with my wife (before we were married...I wanted her to know what she was in for. I plan on training for another 40 years!) she was impressed with Ken Waller. She also thought Franco Columbo should have beaten Arnold, and I can't say I disagree, Columbo looked awesome. I like the scene where Waller is playing some (American) football with Robby Robinson (another awesome build). It was also cool to see Columbo boxing and skipping. The bodybuilders of the 70's were a lot more athletic and there seemed to be more comraderie. That said, this arguement is somewhat silly in the sense that so very few people even have the genetics to become as big as an Olympia competitor. A lot of people who consult me about personal training will say "I don't want to get as big as the guys in the magazines, I just want tone". Yeah, okay Arnie. We wouldn't want to have you lifting heavy weights because I'm sure you'll just explode overnight into 250 pounds of shredded muscle. Hey bruiser, how about we try to get your arms over 15 inches then we can start worrying about getting "too big" I do believe that one must strive for mass, because you can't carve a statue from a pebble. You need a large slab of rock to work with. That said, once you have a descent, natural base you can go for even more mass, lots of cuts, or a combo. Athletic endevours should be considered as well, but keep in mind that it wasn't long ago that weightraining was seen as something that would adversely effect performance in sports. Now, every top athlete in every sport trains with weights to some degree. Weightlifting is the basis of any well-constructed fitness program. I always tell my clients that I am going to train them like bodybuilders, because bodybuilding is about shape, proportion, balance, muscle size and low levels of bodyfat. If they have a problem with that then I know a good yoga instructor looking for a few more clients ______________________ You don't win friends with salad

13-08-2005, 09:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
GTForce Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 198 Rep Power:	zx9rjas, thanks for the link. I saw Bannout when I was down in Venice. He is a personal trainer down there and he still looks great. I always liked Bob Paris and Francis Benfatto. Another guy with a classic physique is Lee Labrada. I met him in Vegas when I went to the Olympia. Very friendly, helpful, and a class act all the way. He is in his mid-forties but looks like he is about 35. He still is in great shape, his waist is no more than 30 inches. Of today's competitors I like Ahmad Haidar because of his mid-section and overall balance. I also like Johnnie Jackson because he is so freaky strong. He is as strong as Coleman despite being 3 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter. At the pro show this year in Canada he was robbed. I do like Darrem Charles, and was glad to see him win the New York Pro, but Jackson should have won in Canada. Check out his site : www.jojfitness.com Very, very thick and powerful looking but nice lines as well. ______________________ You don't win friends with salad

14-08-2005, 10:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
zx9rjas. Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power:	Jackson looks great GT, nice physique. J ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above.

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