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Old 28-12-2007, 05:04 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
 
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whats going on, i have none of the videos of the pros training so i got looking at some on youtube, i was expecting to see perfect form for all but the last rep or so but this wasn't the case at all, i am basically wanting to know weather they train like this all of the time or are they just using heavier weights for the purpose of the viewers?
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Old 29-12-2007, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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This has been discussed on another thread. http://www.musclechat.co.uk/ask-pro/...ge-weight.html

The last post on there by Shredded probably answers your question.
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I dont believe there is nothing with cheating on your last rep or two.

At least your engaging the muscle and not putting the weight down, thus not engaging it.
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i reckon cheating encourages/invites injury.

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as shredded says... what exactly is good form.. everyone is built differently.. muscles begin and end contracting at different points in the range of motion... i do think that yes heavier poundages are used in their videos... but also that they have found teh range of motion which works for them.

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Lost my post and forgot what I just wrote... Doh!

People shouldn't copy the Pros - they've found what works for them and lets not forget how many years of lifting and years of 'assisted' training they've had...

The average trainee should just be aiming for good form and poundage progression.

But if we are on about 'cheating' i.e. using the back when curling - check out this video of Ricky Bruch doing 'Bruch Curls' ( I think this is the one anyway...) :

http://s23.photobucket.com/player.sw...9685&os=1&ap=1

I've seen him doing a similar thing but with 4 plates per side....!!
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Personally I doubt they train how you see for the DVD’ I bought Branch Warren’s unchained a few weeks ago – if he really trains like that he must spend a lot of time injured, very loose form and very heavy weights. Conversely I’ve been watching an old Dorian Yates video, he’s using also using heavy weights but along with , excellent form and full range of motion. I’ve also been watching a Labrada DVD recently again super strict form.

Most of the modern pro DVD are made by the same production company I think it’s just the way the pro’s are being marketed, they look like supermen / freaks (delete as appropriate) so must lift enormous weights, the problem is less experienced trainers watch them and believe it’s the way to train, half the kids in the gym do loose partials with way to much weight and guess what they’re the ones who never seem to put any muscle on.

Go heavy but go strict and squeeze the contraction!
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I saw this one guy yesterday about my age (21) and didn't look as though he was muscular at all.

His Bicep curl was interesting, imagine if you had velcro patches on your knees and you bent over putting in all of your might to rip them off and then nearly falling backwartds as you put them on your ears. All of the time the knees are bent and your whole body is swaying all over the place.

That is the only way i can describe what i saw...god knows where he learnt it!
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half the kids in the gym do loose partials with way to much weight and guess what they’re the ones who never seem to put any muscle on.

Go heavy but go strict and squeeze the contraction!
so very true, i think its the same as with so many things people go for what sells best and people sell out to easy.
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watched cutlers new dvd lately, and he explains his training style in it. he says he never goes heavier than 315 for flat bench press, and usually limits himself to 275 and never does a full range of motion. his reasoning is injury prevention. heavy bench presses so easily lead to pec tears equals end of career. he trains how he trains cos he feels it working. but it's all relative. he trains that way now, but he's already built plenty of his mass. everyone trains in a style individual to them, and the experienced guys on here will know that their own training style has changed over time.
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